Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok

[mookie1995]

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I think Bond also needs a solid 10-year break before its next reboot, once Craig is done with the role.

mookie doesn't like how they seem to have run out of stories and ideas so are replaying what we already know. dee uuu emmm

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Agreed.


The Dinner:

Two wealthy couples (husbands are brothers) meet for dinner to catch up with each other. But there is something else on the agenda that could break them.

Flashbacks mixed in with current time, a slow build until the hectic final scenes. Very much dialogue driven, and the characters are really fleshed out nicely. A bit awkward to watch at first, given one of the main characters, but stick with it. I would recommend it, for sure.

Good to hear....I loved the book

[Handyman]

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I'm in favor of giving Batman a rest once Affleck is done mailing it in.

I think Bond also needs a solid 10-year break before its next reboot, once Craig is done with the role.

Both of those are likely to happen as Disney taking a break from Star Wars. Christ they are already talking about another trilogy having zero to do with the Skywalker story on top of the current series and the standalone films. As long as the properties make money hand over fist there is no way more movies dont come.

Speaking of Disney, apparently they were talks of them buying Fox. That certainly wouldnt help the issues in Hollywood right now when it comes to creativity.

[Kepler]

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I'm in favor of giving Batman a rest once Affleck is done mailing it in.

Yes.

I think Bond also needs a solid 10-year break before its next reboot, once Craig is done with the role.

No, but I would take a 3-year gap to freshen the palate, and to let the poutrage build over Black Trans Lesbian Autistic Muslim Blind Bond.

"She's differently abled, but man is she able!"

[St. Clown]

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Speaking of Disney, apparently they were talks of them buying Fox. That certainly wouldnt help the issues in Hollywood right now when it comes to creativity.

Disney wants to launch its own video streaming site, containing only Disney owned properties. While they have a boatload of movies, what they wanted from Fox were shows like The Simpsons and Futurama. They think that what keeps people on a service is having shows that have proven to get repeat viewing by its core audience, what one article likened to comfort food for the screen. By and large, Disney doesn't have those types of shows in its inventory.

[aparch]

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Disney wants to launch its own video streaming site, containing only Disney owned properties. While they have a boatload of movies, what they wanted from Fox were shows like The Simpsons and Futurama. They think that what keeps people on a service is having shows that have proven to get repeat viewing by its core audience, what one article likened to comfort food for the screen. By and large, Disney doesn't have those types of shows in its inventory.

Ducktales (old and new), Talespin, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles, The Mighty Ducks, Bonkers...

I'd pay a Netflix/Hulu price for a streaming service from Disney if all those were available on demand. Add Simpsons/Futurama/Bob's Burgers/Archer? Sold!

And I'm 35.

[Handyman]

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Disney wants to launch its own video streaming site, containing only Disney owned properties. While they have a boatload of movies, what they wanted from Fox were shows like The Simpsons and Futurama. They think that what keeps people on a service is having shows that have proven to get repeat viewing by its core audience, what one article likened to comfort food for the screen. By and large, Disney doesn't have those types of shows in its inventory.

They want the movie properties too. Not only would it give them the X-Men (just out of the comic book realm) but it would give them the distribution rights to the original uncut Star Wars Trilogy. The amount they could make distributing the Original Originals in Blue Rays alone would be astounding.

I get why they want it, but lord it would be bad for movies and creativity in general.

[Kepler]

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I get why they want it, but lord it would be bad for movies and creativity in general.

I don't see why. The big studios are never the ones producing the interesting and original movies or taking chances. They've always been the Pablum Purveyors. It's what they do. Why does it matter if there are only 4 instead of 5 or 6? It's still going to be a Big Mac coming off that conveyor belt.

[mookie1995]

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mookie watched Grease last night on netflix. were those pants ONJ had on in the last scene THE original yogo pants? they really didn't look like leather and they deserve credit for being the first

[St. Clown]

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mookie watched Grease last night on netflix. were those pants ONJ had on in the last scene THE original yogo pants? they really didn't look like leather and they deserve credit for being the first

She said they were leather, and they took something like 30 minutes for her to get into them. Worth every minute.

[Handyman]

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I don't see why. The big studios are never the ones producing the interesting and original movies or taking chances. They've always been the Pablum Purveyors. It's what they do. Why does it matter if there are only 4 instead of 5 or 6? It's still going to be a Big Mac coming off that conveyor belt.

For the same reason why all the airline mergers have basically destroyed smaller airlines making prices suck or the experience sucks. If only Disney, WB and Sony are out there making films no one is going to finance anything. Lets not forget that all of those big studios own a bunch of smaller studios (Fox Searchlight, Buena Vista, New Line) that they are supposed to use for creative Indy style stuff which also end up making the same boring crap just at cheaper prices.

I have read enough over the years about the games all these studios play to know that the bigger they get the worse it is.

[Handyman]

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She said they were leather, and they took something like 30 minutes for her to get into them. Worth every minute.

They had to stitch her in IIRC.

[Kepler]

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For the same reason why all the airline mergers have basically destroyed smaller airlines making prices suck or the experience sucks. If only Disney, WB and Sony are out there making films no one is going to finance anything. Lets not forget that all of those big studios own a bunch of smaller studios (Fox Searchlight, Buena Vista, New Line) that they are supposed to use for creative Indy style stuff which also end up making the same boring crap just at cheaper prices.

I have read enough over the years about the games all these studios play to know that the bigger they get the worse it is.

I can see that, but (1) it just doesn't cost that much to make or distribute a movie anymore -- it isn't a 747, it's a drone, and (2) the more Hollywood dies the fewer slots there will be, meaning more talent will be joining small outfits or just winging it on their own.

Hollywood and the flourishing of good movies are not necessarily inverse, but they sure aint direct. It's entirely possible that Hollywood dying will be IBM and DEC gobbling up all the proto-computer technology in the 50s and 60s only to get completely as-sf-cked by disrupters in the 70s, thus exploding the quality and breadth of the industry.

Fewer big players means an ever more insular and vulnerable power structure just begging to be toppled completely.

[Handyman]

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I can see that, but (1) it just doesn't cost that much to make or distribute a movie anymore -- it isn't a 747, it's a drone, and (2) the more Hollywood dies the fewer slots there will be, meaning more talent will be joining small outfits or just winging it on their own.

Hollywood and the flourishing of good movies are not necessarily inverse, but they sure aint direct. It's entirely possible that Hollywood dying will be IBM and DEC gobbling up all the proto-computer technology in the 50s and 60s only to get completely as-sf-cked by disrupters in the 70s, thus exploding the quality and breadth of the industry.

Fewer big players means an ever more insular and vulnerable power structure just begging to be toppled completely.

No one is toppling Disney or WB. WB is about to be bought by AT&T. (and they have enough TV and movie money to last til rapture) Disney owns so many franchises and TV stations that they will be fine. Hell they have basically stripped ESPN down to a gas can with wings cause they are sick of it losing cash. If they ever got desperate they could just make a new Star Wars film or start another Indiana Jones project and they will be in the black before the end of the week. These corporations are too big to fail now.

[Kepler]

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No one is toppling Disney or WB. WB is about to be bought by AT&T. (and they have enough TV and movie money to last til rapture) Disney owns so many franchises and TV stations that they will be fine. Hell they have basically stripped ESPN down to a gas can with wings cause they are sick of it losing cash. If they ever got desperate they could just make a new Star Wars film or start another Indiana Jones project and they will be in the black before the end of the week. These corporations are too big to fail now.

And IBM didn't go out of business, either, but they did lose their grip on the industry.

WB and Disney are always going to make billions churning out their dreck, but nothing says their dreck will always be the only first run movies available outside of major cities. The whole movie theater model itself will probably change significantly with people now having perfect resolution and enormous screens in their home.

The problem is how to deliver the 1% of worthwhile movies to the 1% of worthwhile people living outside the 1% of worthwhile places.