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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Sorry folks.

    What investment income? Most retirees are living off Social security, and not much else. And you're just fine with cutting that.



    So the bottom 80% hold a grand total of 8% of the stock market. Gonna need that for their retirement.
    Mutual funds, index funds? I have a portion of my retirement in that.

    A goodly portion of the Fed's Thrift Savings Plan (401k) has a stock market index fund plus another fund into bond's.

    We may not individually own stocks, but we're not exactly absent from the market, especially with savings accounts and CDs paying squat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Some of you guys should feel bad for how mean you've been to Drew.
    Nah he should feel bad for the stupid things he posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Hey, if they're hangin' it out there for all to see (via social media) it's fair game, isn't it?

    See: Gibbs' Rule 4.
    No.

    You know for a guy who believed the canard that Obama wiretapped Trump (and played up how off that would be) you seem pretty blase about this. I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it is targeting a group you are not a part of...
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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    Normally I ginore Facebook memes but I didnt find a couple that proved the stupidity of the Right's opinion on the NFL Protests. One was how the same people ripping the NFL to shreds seemed to have little to no issue with Kim Davis and her using her political and religious beliefs to protest Gay Marriage. The other was how the same party that seems outraged over the disrespect to the flag also supports Kid Rock for Senator...a man who cut a hole in a Flag and wore it as a poncho during a concert.
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Mutual funds, index funds? I have a portion of my retirement in that.

    A goodly portion of the Fed's Thrift Savings Plan (401k) has a stock market index fund plus another fund into bond's.

    We may not individually own stocks, but we're not exactly absent from the market, especially with savings accounts and CDs paying squat.
    Included. The amount of stock you, me, and everyone else in this country has pales in comparison to what the richest 20% hold.
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    But he wore it respectfully.
    Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    But he wore it respectfully.
    I think the real reason is pretty black and white.

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    Don't tell me the Kid Rock campaign was a real thing... I thought he said it was a joke? I was disillusioned enough for one day when I saw we're giving a tax deduction for "gambling losses." America is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer View Post
    Don't tell me the Kid Rock campaign was a real thing... I thought he said it was a joke? I was disillusioned enough for one day when I saw we're giving a tax deduction for "gambling losses." America is over.
    I thought you could add a deduction for losses, but you also have to report your winnings, so they are properly taxed.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer View Post
    Don't tell me the Kid Rock campaign was a real thing... I thought he said it was a joke? I was disillusioned enough for one day when I saw we're giving a tax deduction for "gambling losses." America is over.
    He's still only teasing it, and Debs is treating him like he's a serious candidate. He may have the raw numbers to run. Lord knows there are enough imbeciles in the Michissippi parts of the state who like the racket he makes and would vote for him. That said, I don't think he's serious enough to be willing to give up his current lifestyle.
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    An you can only claim a small amount. If you lose 10k you cant write that off or anything. I want to say it is like $500.
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    An you can only claim a small amount. If you lose 10k you cant write that off or anything. I want to say it is like $500.
    You can claim more than that. Is there a different law if you are a pro gambler (think: poker)? I know they have to record their sessions as "job shifts" or something. You play 12 hours, then take an (x) amount of break before your next run, etc. You record your monetary winnings and losses....

    Have a friend who basically plays poker as a legit side job, ended up making enough to buy his house.
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    You don't have to sell your farm to pay the taxes, you can take 15 years to pay them in installments if you need to. If your farm can't cover the taxes over 15 years I'd suggest you sell it and put the money to better use. The estate tax killing the family farm is as big a lie as everything else that comes out of Trump/Ryan's mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I thought you could add a deduction for losses, but you also have to report your winnings, so they are properly taxed.....
    and you can only deduct losses to offset winnings, not other non-gambling income.
    Last edited by unofan; 09-29-2017 at 12:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    and you can only deduct losses to offset winnings.
    Correct.
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Normally I ginore Facebook memes but I didnt find a couple that proved the stupidity of the Right's opinion on the NFL Protests..
    all y'all like how tD won this round?? saw the tv clips this morning and EVERY ONE OF THE PLAYERS WAS STANDING AT ATTENTION LAST NIGHT DURING THE ANTHEM
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    John Henry released a nice statement against hate and intolerance which I was glad to see included Tommie Jones and John Carlos among others who have stood up against racial hate and oppression in the past. Those people are heroes now (not so much Jones and Carlos, probably), but we forget how vilified they were at the time, including Ali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    John Henry released a nice statement against hate and intolerance which I was glad to see included Tommie Jones and John Carlos among others who have stood up against racial hate and oppression in the past. Those people are heroes now (not so much Jones and Carlos, probably), but we forget how vilified they were at the time, including Ali.
    Where has John Henry been the last 15 years? Not to be cynical, but I think is just another money making scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    You can claim more than that. Is there a different law if you are a pro gambler (think: poker)? I know they have to record their sessions as "job shifts" or something. You play 12 hours, then take an (x) amount of break before your next run, etc. You record your monetary winnings and losses....

    Have a friend who basically plays poker as a legit side job, ended up making enough to buy his house.
    Those are different rules because that is considered income. You can only claim a small amount if it is recreational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    You don't need a new political party. You need to get big money out of the ones we currently have.

    Any new party that even begins earning seats in government, and they'll get bought out just like the ones we already have.
    You're right, but there's as much of a chance of getting money out of The Parties as there is of Handy burning all his Goldie Gear, moving to Grand Forks, and becoming a UND Hockey fan.
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