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  • #76
    Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Holy moly. NCAA drops the UNC investigation after they couldn't prove academic fraud.
    Good God.
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    • #77
      Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

      Originally posted by walrus View Post
      Yet you rank them
      That's within the region. NY has nothing to do with it. I rank them because I lived there, and because it's irresistible to trigger the defensiveness and inferiority of Bostonians by pointing out they are defensive and inferior.
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      • #78
        Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

        Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
        I haven't followed the UNC problem too closely, but I know there is some sort of issue over jurisdiction. It's kind of like the Dallas Carter football team problem from a number of years ago that was the subject of an ESPN documentary. It comes down to who has jurisdiction (the right to decide) over the issue. In the Dallas Carter case, it was a question as to whether the school itself had a right to decide what grade a student received, or whether the Board of Education had that right.

        Might be a similar problem here where the school gets to decide what types of classes are offered and how they are graded, etc..., rather than the NCAA. The NCAA can step in when you have agents bribing coaches or players, etc...
        This isnt about Jurisdiction, though the NCAA tried to slough it off that way originally. Players remained eligible by taking classes that never existed and the school knew about it. Hell the school let "real" students take the courses too and get fake grades. This is unprecedented academic fraud. The school should lose accreditation over this and that isnt hyperbole. (not to mention it can also be fraud since I am sure many got federal aid to fake their way through)

        Look I was at Minnesota when their scandal hit and at the time it was one of the worst ever. This dwarfs it by about 200%. (we are talking decades here) The U lost their flipping Final Four banner over that. NC won at least 2 if not 3 National Titles playing guys who had no business being on the court. I have never openly advocated for the U to put the banner back up but now I am. In fact, any school that has had anything taken away over academic issues should reinstate them in their official records and flip the bird to the NCAA.

        The NCAA for all intents and purposes just decertified themselves by saying they cant prove this. The tutors provided evidence, the school admitted the classes went on and that athletes took them.
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        • #79
          Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

          BTW part of the reason they got nothing was because the NCAA figured if regular students could take the courses there was no unfair benefits to players. So if you are a booster now and you want to pay the players, just pay some random students as well as long as everyone has access the NCAA doesnt have the balls to act on it.

          This is why I only watch my team play. The NCAA is a joke.
          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
          -aparch

          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
          -INCH

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
            BTW part of the reason they got nothing was because the NCAA figured if regular students could take the courses there was no unfair benefits to players. So if you are a booster now and you want to pay the players, just pay some random students as well as long as everyone has access the NCAA doesnt have the balls to act on it.

            This is why I only watch my team play. The NCAA is a joke.
            And don't kid yourself. Every SEC booster will be outside the student gate with a stack of Benjamins.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              BTW part of the reason they got nothing was because the NCAA figured if regular students could take the courses there was no unfair benefits to players. So if you are a booster now and you want to pay the players, just pay some random students as well as long as everyone has access the NCAA doesnt have the balls to act on it.

              This is why I only watch my team play. The NCAA is a joke.
              And i want someone to ask the NCAA how they didn't benefit when some of those players have said that without those classes..they aren't eligible.
              If that's not benefiting...i don't know what is.
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              • #82
                Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

                Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
                And i want someone to ask the NCAA how they didn't benefit when some of those players have said that without those classes..they aren't eligible.
                If that's not benefiting...i don't know what is.
                Oh they benefited but the NCAA only cares if ONLY the players benefit.

                That is the loophole...originally the NCAA wasnt going to look into this at all literally because of that. They said it wasnt their job.
                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                -aparch

                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                -INCH

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                • #83
                  Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

                  Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                  Oh they benefited but the NCAA only cares if ONLY the players benefit.

                  That is the loophole...originally the NCAA wasnt going to look into this at all literally because of that. They said it wasnt their job.
                  That's where Minnesota screwed up...should have just had Jan Gangelhoff write papers for some regular students too...
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                    Oh they benefited but the NCAA only cares if ONLY the players benefit.

                    That is the loophole...originally the NCAA wasnt going to look into this at all literally because of that. They said it wasnt their job.
                    Then honestly....the NCAA shouldn't exist if this isn't their job.
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                    • #85
                      Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

                      Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
                      That's where Minnesota screwed up...should have just had Jan Gangelhoff write papers for some regular students too...
                      It would be funny if it wasnt so sad.

                      You know what is next Adidas will start paying normal students to go to specific colleges. That will shield them from this crap.

                      Why should we be surprised by this though. The NCAA had tape of Oregon's coach talking about how third parties got athletes to play for him and they did nothing to him. The NCAA stopped caring a long time ago...

                      The next little school that does anything wrong though will go down hard though so the NCAA can pretend they have power.
                      "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                      -aparch

                      "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                      -INCH

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                      • #86
                        Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?











                        Last edited by Handyman; 10-13-2017, 01:41 PM.
                        "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                        -aparch

                        "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                        -INCH

                        Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                        -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                        • #87
                          Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?




                          Nice Planet out of ya, NCAA.
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                          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                          • #88
                            Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

                            You should see the papers the tutors who blew the whistle shared. My 4 year old daughter could write better and I dont have a daughter...
                            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                            -aparch

                            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                            -INCH

                            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                            -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                            • #89
                              Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?

                              That grammar.....
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                              • #90
                                Re: College Hoops 2017. Hoosier Daddy? Wildcat strike? The Butler did it?





                                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                                -aparch

                                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                                -INCH

                                Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                                -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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