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  • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Eleanor and Pat are required, but it won't be the same without John.

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      The season ending twist to Survivor was ridiculous and cost Chrissy the $1 million prize.

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      • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        I don't know if that's a good thing or not. I always missed Jack, and now I will miss John.
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          Jean-Claude Van Johnson. Just 2 episodes in but my god it's funny.
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            Finished S2 of The Wire. It's good. Really good. But I can't say it's better than BB right now. It's on par with SOA to this point, a tad worse than Justified. However, the jury is still out, since I have 3 seasons to go.
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            • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

              Finally started Stranger Things.

              Watched the first two of season 1 last night and we're hooked already.


              There are a few historical inaccuracies though and they irk me coz Google exists and it wouldn't be hard to have gotten it right.

              I believe it's set in 1983:

              There is an answering machine at one point and they weren't really around in great numbers until a few years later and was it Lonnie who had it? Doubt he'd have had one or could have afforded one in 1983.

              The brother mentions The Smiths to the kid when they're sitting on the bed. It would have been a decent stretch to have known about the Smiths in 1983.

              The televisions – even in the financially better off household – look like they're from the mid 70s.


              If you're gonna do a period certain setting, it's the details that matter.

              I don't usually pick nits, but as someone who was 13 in 83, these things stood out.


              Anyway - good start and engaging story and looking forward to more.

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              • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

                Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                The brother mentions The Smiths to the kid when they're sitting on the bed. It would have been a decent stretch to have known about the Smiths in 1983.
                A small quibble. People did know of the Smiths in 1983 because they had massive hype from guys like John Peel and mags like NME -- a lot of their music was circulating bootleg long before they did their albums. I was amazed to read that their official creation date was 1982 because I could swear I was hearing them in 1982, and my impression at that time was since everybody talked about them they had been around for years.

                Now it's true that the kids are in Indiana, so it's not like they're getting the Post Punk Progressive Pop Party over the air from NYC. But IINM by 1983 Robyn Hitchcock had already written "Listening to the Higsons" which is itself an inside joke inside another inside joke about that band's song about listening to the Smiths in their attic.

                I think what I'm trying to say is Morrisey is an as-s.

                The televisions – even in the financially better off household – look like they're from the mid 70s.
                Noticed this too. Also that early 70's paneling was hard for the set designer to resist I'm sure but by the early 80s every housewife in America had put her foot down and had it ripped out.

                It is interesting to watch a period piece from a period you lived in and see all the mistakes. The major one is just the way the kids talk. That staccato, Sorkiny punchy dialog is a complete creation of the 90s. Human beings didn't talk like that then any more than they had vocal fry then. Those are all later idiocies unconsciously introduced by young personnel who know no better.

                But hey, Braveheart's wearing a kilt -- not everybody has a dramaturg.
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                  Black mirror season 4 now streaming! I won’t get to any of them until this weekend.
                  Ep one is the Star Trek parody about satire and the male power fantasy.
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                  • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

                    Just remembered the one that got me looking for inaccuracies...

                    "Dooshbag" was used twice.


                    Maybe that was a term in 1983, but I'm sure that I've only known of it for at most, the past 20 years.

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                    • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

                      Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                      Just remembered the one that got me looking for inaccuracies...

                      "Dooshbag" was used twice.


                      Maybe that was a term in 1983, but I'm sure that I've only known of it for at most, the past 20 years.
                      In my high school DB was a term in the early 80s, but it wasn't casual -- it was a line you didn't cross without being willing to fight. Boys were also utterly clueless what a dou-che was but knew it was gross.

                      In 1980, among boys you did not use the following words unless you were saying you would go to the wall:

                      "DB"
                      "your mother is a --" anything* sexually crude (it was fine to go to "fat" or "poor" or "dirty" because that led to White Dozens).
                      "your father is a-- " anything alluding to homosexuality
                      if you were white, the N word, even to your friends <-- this, in my school, could get you literally stabbed; the ironic N word joke did not exist yet, it was pure hatred

                      I think that's it. It was open house on everything else. The reason we thought the Latino (except at that time they were "Hispanic") kids were crazy is they'd start with the N word and go from there.

                      * That's not quite true. You could for instance say "your Mom's so easy..." and in the mid 70s I heard the joke "I didn't know your Mom was into politics, but I heard her on the sidewalk yelling Hump! Free!" As a 9-year old I thought that was quite clever.
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                      • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

                        I'll stand corrected on the DB front.

                        Certainly wasn't as well known as it is now.


                        It threw my wife too as she didn't feel like it was used at that time.

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                        • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

                          Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                          I'll stand corrected on the DB front.

                          Certainly wasn't as well known as it is now.


                          It threw my wife too as she didn't feel like it was used at that time.
                          Regional differences maybe, too.

                          We basically just called each other "girls" until we were about 12, and then "fags" until we were about 18.

                          We weren't what you would call imaginative.
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                            SNL:

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                            • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Regional differences maybe, too.

                              We basically just called each other "girls" until we were about 12, and then "fags" until we were about 18.

                              We weren't what you would call imaginative.

                              Fag was our go to iirc.

                              I grew up in Joliet - not too far from Indiana but worlds away from small podunk towns at that time.

                              We were a year or two behind big cities and little towns were years behind us.

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                              • Re: TV: There She Is, The Old Radiation King

                                Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                                Fag was our go to iirc.

                                I grew up in Joliet - not too far from Indiana but worlds away from small podunk towns at that time.

                                We were a year or two behind big cities and little towns were years behind us.
                                This Joliet?




                                THIS Joliet? Cuz... wow. That looks like hard livin'.
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