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    I didnít think Ryan would leave early but my mind changed after seeing him play at the Olympics. He definitely seems ready for the next level.

    Is it crazy to think he can continue his studies and possibly graduate on time assuming he plays for the Bruins next year? I know Harvard is rigorous, so that may not be realistic.
    Agreed, I bet he will shine as a Bruin. Hard to imagine one can graduate in May 2019 assuming the current spring term plus two terms next year (12 courses) are taken up as a touring pro hockey player. I would guess it will take three or four summers to finish up. I wonder if independent study is feasible? I wish Ryan well.


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    No one has mentioned possible injury in his senior year could jeopardise multi millions of dollars in his NHL lifetime. An MCL or ACL tear in the knee could end his career.
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    Good luck to Ryan, he did everything he could at Harvard and it will be exciting seeing him play for the Bruins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    No one has mentioned possible injury in his senior year could jeopardise multi millions of dollars in his NHL lifetime. An MCL or ACL tear in the knee could end his career.
    That always a concern for college athletes, but the same concern is there as a pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    No one has mentioned possible injury in his senior year could jeopardise multi millions of dollars in his NHL lifetime. An MCL or ACL tear in the knee could end his career.
    Yes, but the point is he would have the money by then. If he gets hurt while still in college the big payday is gone forever.

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    That's what I meant chickrod.
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    I can see how my comments have appeared much more adamant than I actually meant to convey. It's just that I view Harvard College as justifiably known for its students. Quite a few of whom happen also to be athletes. When students leave early it is a loss to all. Not only athletes, but think of Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates or, so many decades ago, Edwin Land all of whom left early. Regretfully it will be much harder now for Ted to make a persuasive case to those contemplating an early exit. Fingers crossed other drafted players such as Adam Fox, John Marino don't decide to go pro. Hopefully Louis Leblanc can share his experience leaving after one year unable then to sustain an NHL career.




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    LeBlanc left early to go to the CHL and to play for Canada at the World Juniors, even if he thought that would help his NHL career. Not comparable. I also bet Vesey would have left early if he had wanted to play for Nashville, but that's speculation.

    Donato stayed for three years and is going to make progress toward his degree. There is no knock on the program in what he is doing. If a student left after three years for a high paying job in finance, but also promised to come back for their degree, none of us would bat an eye. Or frankly even know. It's only because Ryan is an athlete that we are aware of this at all.
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    Another thing to consider is he only had to sign a 2yr entry level contract and by playing this season, he will burn 1yr of that contract off. So after next season, he will be able to sign as a restricted free agent, which presumably will be higher than the $900K annual entry level contract... So there was a significant monetary advantage to sign now, rather than wait...

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    Well, that didn't take long, snipe in his first pro game. Looks good out there.
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    Story on Donatoís Bruins debut including quotes from him and Bruce Cassidy:

    http://www.hockeyjournal.com/nehocke...ticleId1366023

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    According to The Crimson, Donato went back to his dorm in Winthrop after the game and went to his 9am class today.

    Anyone still worried that we are going to become a hockey factory that neglects the student part of student-athlete just because Ryan went pro?
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    Wiley Sherman has signed with the Bruins and will report to Providence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alslammerz View Post
    According to The Crimson, Donato went back to his dorm in Winthrop after the game and went to his 9am class today.

    Anyone still worried that we are going to become a hockey factory that neglects the student part of student-athlete just because Ryan went pro?
    That makes sense. There are only 10 regular season Bruins games between now and the start of reading period. The river houses are a lot closer to both the Garden and the Bruin's practice rink than his family home. I know he has not been home. I suspect that he is able to arrange exam schedules or perhaps get permission to submit major papers in lieu of exams. Some of the courses may have already had provisions for papers in lieu of exams.

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    As I'm going through my teams recruits for next season I can't help but notice the amount of talent that is heading to Harvard. Anybody with any insight on how good these team could be next year or years upcoming?

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    As I'm going through my teams recruits for next season I can't help but notice the amount of talent that is heading to Harvard. Anybody with any insight on how good these team could be next year or years upcoming?
    I follow Clarkson recruiting closely and while watching Dunne, Hurley, Tisdale, Underwood I've seen Dornbach a lot and he's going to be a real good player. I've never really seen Harvard take many older recruits like this but he's definitely worth it, he is your classic late bloomer and will be a great NCAA player. I'll be honest, I don't believe Wahlstrom makes it to campus although I hope he does as it will make the ECAC that much more interesting, the NTDP being in Ann Arbor is a scary thing with Michigan now having Mel Pearson at the helm who has one of the best recruiting staffs in college hockey and obviously Michigan sells itself in most scenarios. There's no shortage of hockey IQ with Baker Shore and Jack Drury, with Dornbach/Drury/Shore those three will put up points at the college level right away. Rathbone will probably make the jump straight to Harvard as well, he's a great skater and will add to your defense who already move the puck with the best of teams. RJ Murphy and Jonny Russell I haven't seen at all but they both seem they'll be solid 4 year players but I wouldn't expect any instant impact, him and Rifai are much of the same player but Rathbone has 10x the ceiling, both will need help defensively at the next level. In net Lackey will battle Gibson/Schaedig, Gibson has had an unreal NAHL season and is definitely on NHL teams radar for the upcoming draft.

    Especially looking over the past few years and even heading into the future Harvard usually will lead the ECAC with recruiting, if Marino and Walsh are planning to stay I just don't see a drop off from the Donato departure, one player is great but an improved forward core is better, if Badini, Bowlby, Krusko, Pelton-Byce, Zerter-Gossage all take steps as older players (like most of your guys do under Donato) and then you add Dornback, Drury, Shore along with Rathbone and Rifai defensively, I still think you'll be top 4 in a tough ECAC next season, if you succeed in your non-conference then you'll be a lock for the tournament. With all that said your rivals over in New Haven have a really nice class coming in next season with Curtis Hall, Kyle Johnson, Graham Lillibridge, Justin Pearson, and John St. Ivany but Harvard is loaded for the next 3 years even with the potential decommitments that are bound to happen.

    I'd say it's Harvard 1, Yale 2, Clarkson 3, Princeton 4 with nobody quite close behind them in terms of recruiting in the ECAC, to be fair to teams like Cornell, Dartmouth, Union they are returning a lot of players so it wasn't as crucial for those teams.
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    Couple of tidbits:

    - Wahlstrom not coming to Harvard is disappointing, but not surprising and while I am speculating, my guess is that this option is based on getting thru admissions. He is likely a 1 and done player (maybe 2 years) and guys with that kind of pedigree are better served by mercenary college hockey programs. Harvard will always be better off with 3-4 year players - guys who value academics, , but perhaps are under-sized where developing in college will best serve them. Wahlstrom is 6'1 205lbs - he has a NHL body which is also why he surely a short-timer in college

    - Harvard brings in 3 freshman next year who are in the Top 15 in scoring in the USHL. Really like this class which brings in a mix of age, scoring, and smarts. They also bring in 2 goalies next year and I think the goalie position will be as competitive as it has been for years.

    - Paul Pearl did not get the Merrimack job so he should be back behind the bench next year

    - More early defections to the NHL this year: Angello (Cornell), Rempal (Clarkson), etc. We already know how well Donato is doing in Boston playing on the #2 line. Should make for continued parity next year.

    - In terms of longer term recruits, keep your eyes on Matt Beniers out of Milton Academy. All the big schools are vying for him, but Harvard is right there. He is likely the top forward out of the East with a 2002 birth year.

    - Cornell was the #1 seed and couldn't even hold serve in the regional. Reaffirms how down the ECAC was this year and how Cornell's record was hollow given the lack of quality in the ECAC coupled with Cornell's non-conference schedule (Niagara, Alabama Huntsville, please!). I hope they hid the hemlock up in Ithaca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bothman View Post
    Couple of tidbits:


    - Cornell was the #1 seed and couldn't even hold serve in the regional. Reaffirms how down the ECAC was this year and how Cornell's record was hollow given the lack of quality in the ECAC coupled with Cornell's non-conference schedule (Niagara, Alabama Huntsville, please!). I hope they hid the hemlock up in Ithaca.
    Even worse, St Cloud St (previously #1 in the polls) lost to unranked Air Force. And UMD was ranked #11 in the polls on March 19th, but was the ultimate champion. I think this shows just how much parity there is in D1 hockey. Seems like more parity than ever to me.

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