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    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    So back to normal teddy d status?
    Does this mean Paul Pearl is leaving?

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    Re: Harvard Crimson 2017-2018

    Some random thoughts to close the book on the 2017-2018 season.

    1. Harvard may want to think about hiring a coach to focus on D zone coverage. They had problems this year in the transition game and too often, tried to stick swipe the puck instead of taking the man. They lost battles along the boards and were caught watching the other team instead of asserting themselves. This may necessitate a change in style. I hope Teddy thinks about it seriously because he has too much talent back there to have them perform they way they did this year.

    2. The Crimson need to improve their cycle game and create space to allow for better looks at the opposing goalie. Too often this season, we were shooting blanks or getting shots blocked because we were too indecisive as to whether to shoot or pass. More often it was the latter. Part of the improvement should be as a result of better finishers coming in.

    3. The conference as a whole was pretty wide open and Princeton and Dartmouth certainly surprised me with their play down the stretch. I expect the Bobcats and Yale to be improved next year and Clarkson should be favored along with Cornell to get a top four slot. Harvard should be right there as well.

    4. Wondering if Paul Pearl will leave to pursue head coaching positions. Don't know of any opening up and not sure if he'd leave MA. Bears watching.

    5. Ryan, if you or any of your teammates read this forum, please stay and graduate on time. If for no other reason than you give a lot of us immense pleasure watching you perform. And yeah, I get that we can watch you spin your magic with the Bruins but college hockey is a unique experience and we've been blessed to watch you, Jimmy Vesey, Alex Kerfoot, Tyler May, Sean Malone and Luke Esposito bring us out of our seats with some amazing rushes or plays down low. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

    Cheers everyone and have a great summer if it ever arrives here in NE. Been a lot of fun posting and sharing thoughts this season.

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    Re: Harvard Crimson 2017-2018

    How about this headline:

    “Fox and Donato return to co-captain Harvard team with eyes on Hobey Baker, ECAC, and National hardware”

    More on this past season later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skate79 View Post
    Historically yes except that Zerter Gossage and Krushko had dropoffs this year and they were counted on to provide offense. True some of the drop off can be explained by the loss of the top four forwards but if we go by your thesis, they should have stepped up. They didn't.

    It's not that I'm not looking forward to next season. i'm just cautiously optimistic and not entirely convinced beyond Badini and Bowlby that the others will raise their games. Pelton-Byce in particular has to step up. And yes, next year's class should help once they get their feet wet.

    I think next year holds a lot of promise. As we've all been saying, this year Harvard had to re-group after the loss of so many seniors. We had a pretty good, if inconsistent, year of readjustment. And let's not forget, as Coach Donato said, it's not that easy making it to Lake Placid. Are we spoiled?

    I'm not sure what you mean by Krusko and Zerter-Gossage dropping off this year; did you look at the stats? Both had more points in fewer games than last year. They're developing quite well - as is Pelton-Byce- and will probably be even better next year. Onward and upward!

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    4. Wondering if Paul Pearl will leave to pursue head coaching positions. Don't know of any opening up and not sure if he'd leave MA. Bears watching.

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    Not sure if you saw this article, but it speculates that Pearl could be a top candidate for the Merrimack job...

    https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ne...Candidates.php

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    Re: Harvard Crimson 2017-2018

    Ryan Donato has just signed for Boston.

    https://www.nhl.com/bruins/news/brui...ct/c-297070516
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    Quote Originally Posted by wysi View Post
    Ryan Donato has just signed for Boston.

    https://www.nhl.com/bruins/news/brui...ct/c-297070516
    well, that's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wysi View Post
    Ryan Donato has just signed for Boston.

    https://www.nhl.com/bruins/news/brui...ct/c-297070516
    Tough loss for you guys. But as a Bruins fan, I'm excited to see how he does.
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    Ryan’s early departure is stunning news. It leaves an enormous hole in the lineup for sure, but in my view does significant damage to the reputation of a program dedicated to fostering the true student-athlete. After Jimmy Vesey’s eloquence as the first in his immediate family to attend college and insistence on graduating before signing a pro contract, Ryan’s early departure is a sad day indeed. The optics of coach Donato’s son, of all people, leaving removes any standing to counsel future NHL prospects from doing the same thing. Besides Vesey, Dominic Moore, Alex Kerfoot, Alex Killorn, Danny Biega, Kyle Criscuolo, and several In the AHL and other international leagues all graduated after playing out their four year eligibility. Let’s hope we are not now on a slippery slope towards joining BU, BC as a short term pre-professional launch pad. In this sense we are better off not accepting a Wahlstrom type superstar who I gather is equally qualified to join the elite NHL possibly sooner than later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HUCrimson#1 View Post
    Ryan’s early departure is stunning news. It leaves an enormous hole in the lineup for sure, but in my view does significant damage to the reputation of a program dedicated to fostering the true student-athlete. After Jimmy Vesey’s eloquence as the first in his immediate family to attend college and insistence on graduating before signing a pro contract, Ryan’s early departure is a sad day indeed. The optics of coach Donato’s son, of all people, leaving removes any standing to counsel future NHL prospects from doing the same thing. Besides Vesey, Dominic Moore, Alex Kerfoot, Alex Killorn, Danny Biega, Kyle Criscuolo, and several In the AHL and other international leagues all graduated after playing out their four year eligibility. Let’s hope we are not now on a slippery slope towards joining BU, BC as a short term pre-professional launch pad. In this sense we are better off not accepting a Wahlstrom type superstar who I gather is equally qualified to join the elite NHL possibly sooner than later.


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    "Do as we say, not as we do."
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    Quote Originally Posted by HUCrimson#1 View Post
    Ryan’s early departure is stunning news. It leaves an enormous hole in the lineup for sure, but in my view does significant damage to the reputation of a program dedicated to fostering the true student-athlete. After Jimmy Vesey’s eloquence as the first in his immediate family to attend college and insistence on graduating before signing a pro contract, Ryan’s early departure is a sad day indeed. The optics of coach Donato’s son, of all people, leaving removes any standing to counsel future NHL prospects from doing the same thing. Besides Vesey, Dominic Moore, Alex Kerfoot, Alex Killorn, Danny Biega, Kyle Criscuolo, and several In the AHL and other international leagues all graduated after playing out their four year eligibility. Let’s hope we are not now on a slippery slope towards joining BU, BC as a short term pre-professional launch pad. In this sense we are better off not accepting a Wahlstrom type superstar who I gather is equally qualified to join the elite NHL possibly sooner than later.


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    Although Donato was always known as a phenom, some of these kids develop into early departures, aka Alex Lyon from Yale. As shown by Yale and Union, and NCAA title can be won by a team with few draft picks, that is not the usual case. I agree that the Ivy tradition of the student athelete should remain strong, unfortunately no matter who the Coach is or his personal relationship with the player, the choice is ultimately up to the player. The kid almost got you there last year, but the program will survive with or without Ryan Donato. The funny thing is, if his father had not been the coach, he probably would have played somewhere east of you down the pike.
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    Although Donato was always known as a phenom, some of these kids develop into early departures, aka Alex Lyon from Yale. As shown by Yale and Union, and NCAA title can be won by a team with few draft picks, that is not the usual case. I agree that the Ivy tradition of the student athelete should remain strong, unfortunately no matter who the Coach is or his personal relationship with the player, the choice is ultimately up to the player. The kid almost got you there last year, but the program will survive with or without Ryan Donato. The funny thing is, if his father had not been the coach, he probably would have played somewhere east of you down the pike.
    Agreed it’s the kid’s decision. I know from experience dads have relatively little leverage especially over kids in their teens and early twenties. And you may well be right that but for dad Ryan would have ended up at a hockey factory down Commonwealth Ave. But given the amount of hard academic work required to get accepted at Harvard makes me think at that stage Ryan was aiming to make it to Harvard.

    So it is ironic that perhaps the major influence in attracting Ryan to Harvard was unable to retain him. I just thought given Ted also graduated from Harvard and resisted going pro with the Bruins until completing his eligibility that Ryan would want to uphold the tradition. Of course, I recognize this is pure speculation on my part and I really wish Ryan and the Donato family all the best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HUCrimson#1 View Post
    Agreed it’s the kid’s decision. I know from experience dads have relatively little leverage especially over kids in their teens and early twenties. And you may well be right that but for dad Ryan would have ended up at a hockey factory down Commonwealth Ave. But given the amount of hard academic work required to get accepted at Harvard makes me think at that stage Ryan was aiming to make it to Harvard.

    So it is ironic that perhaps the major influence in attracting Ryan to Harvard was unable to retain him. I just thought given Ted also graduated from Harvard and resisted going pro with the Bruins until completing his eligibility that Ryan would want to uphold the tradition. Of course, I recognize this is pure speculation on my part and I really wish Ryan and the Donato family all the best.


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    Hey, Pro Hockey or International Studies (don't know his degree path) , which would you choose if you knew that the degree could be completed in the future? Good luck to him, being a Ranger fan I still get to root against him, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LTsatch View Post
    Hey, Pro Hockey or International Studies (don't know his degree path) , which would you choose if you knew that the degree could be completed in the future? Good luck to him, being a Ranger fan I still get to root against him, lol.
    I didn’t think Ryan would leave early but my mind changed after seeing him play at the Olympics. He definitely seems ready for the next level.

    Is it crazy to think he can continue his studies and possibly graduate on time assuming he plays for the Bruins next year? I know Harvard is rigorous, so that may not be realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUCrimson#1 View Post
    Ryan’s early departure is stunning news. It leaves an enormous hole in the lineup for sure, but in my view does significant damage to the reputation of a program dedicated to fostering the true student-athlete. After Jimmy Vesey’s eloquence as the first in his immediate family to attend college and insistence on graduating before signing a pro contract, Ryan’s early departure is a sad day indeed. The optics of coach Donato’s son, of all people, leaving removes any standing to counsel future NHL prospects from doing the same thing. Besides Vesey, Dominic Moore, Alex Kerfoot, Alex Killorn, Danny Biega, Kyle Criscuolo, and several In the AHL and other international leagues all graduated after playing out their four year eligibility. Let’s hope we are not now on a slippery slope towards joining BU, BC as a short term pre-professional launch pad. In this sense we are better off not accepting a Wahlstrom type superstar who I gather is equally qualified to join the elite NHL possibly sooner than later.


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    Wow you'd think Donato left after one year. He gave you three years and I'd be willing to bet Ted will stay on him about getting his degree. Most kids going to Harvard will be there 4 years but there are going to be exceptions. That doesn't make you a hockey factory.

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    I'm from New York too and spend my time in Boston largely incognito! I get it. At Ryan's age given the options I too would pursue the dream.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Middle Street View Post
    I didn’t think Ryan would leave early but my mind changed after seeing him play at the Olympics. He definitely seems ready for the next level.

    Is it crazy to think he can continue his studies and possibly graduate on time assuming he plays for the Bruins next year? I know Harvard is rigorous, so that may not be realistic.
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    Well I certainly would have liked to see him back for another year but it is Ryan's decision. It is his dream. He grew up in the house of an NHL player and understands what a pro hockey career involves. Ryan is a bright and sensible young man (as well as a very nice young man). Ted and Jeannine know what a hockey career involves and I am very sure that he made this decision in conjunction with them. I noticed his statement today emphasized his commitment to complete his degree at Harvard, I am sure he will do so. I wish him all the best in his new career.

    On the bright side for Harvard hockey, Jack seems to be shaping up well. I have no idea where Nolan will be attending college next year but he is also a hockey player and a golfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Wow you'd think Donato left after one year. He gave you three years and I'd be willing to bet Ted will stay on him about getting his degree. Most kids going to Harvard will be there 4 years but there are going to be exceptions. That doesn't make you a hockey factory.
    I can see how my comments have appeared much more adamant than I actually meant to convey. It's just that I view Harvard College as justifiably known for its students. Quite a few of whom happen also to be athletes. When students leave early it is a loss to all. Not only athletes, but think of Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates or, so many decades ago, Edwin Land all of whom left early. Regretfully it will be much harder now for Ted to make a persuasive case to those contemplating an early exit. Fingers crossed other drafted players such as Adam Fox, John Marino don't decide to go pro. Hopefully Louis Leblanc can share his experience leaving after one year unable then to sustain an NHL career.




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