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    USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    It's that time of year! Send in your preseason ballots. I'll be posting on Wednesdays again this year.

    Here's the final poll I compiled last year, I think it might have been the last week of the regular season or something.

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    I reserve the right to change my mind, but here's what I'm thinking off the cuff:

    1) Clarkson
    2) Wisconsin
    3) Minnesota
    4) Boston College
    5) Colgate
    6) Northeastern
    7) St. Lawrence
    8) Quinnipiac
    9) Robert Morris
    10) Cornell

    Duluth 5th in the USCHO poll is absurd. They lose basically their entire offense.

    Here's some back of the envelope math on returning scoring. I didn't take into account transfers. This factors in Olympians and graduated seniors.

    My thoughts:

    -Hockey East looks like it's going to be a bit deeper this year.
    -Gophers and Badgers lose more than I thought they did.
    -Parity is going to be insane this year.
    -How is Providence returning so much scoring? They lose something like 4 D, so they might give up close to a billion goals after allowing so many last year.

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    I have no idea what is happening out east, before any games have been played, so these predictions should not be used for wagering purposes.

    1) Clarkson U: Return lots of scoring, but question mark in goal.
    2) UM: I like the freshmen
    3) UW: Last time they didn't have an All-American goaltender, the Gophers could beat the Badgers in football
    4) BC: I automatically pick BC as the best team out east
    5) Colgate: everybody's back
    6) Robt Morris: almost everybody's back
    7) Northeastern: lots of people are back
    8) St Lawrence: some people are back
    9) Quinnipiac: always looks good in polls
    10) Clarkson College Fighting Nurses: nobody gave them a chance last year, and look what happened.

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Quote Originally Posted by Leather helmet View Post
    1) Clarkson U: Return lots of scoring, but question mark in goal.
    10) Clarkson College Fighting Nurses: nobody gave them a chance last year, and look what happened.
    Errr you lost me here haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger20 View Post
    Errr you lost me here haha
    The original NYT story about the championship game attributed the win to Clarkson College, an Omaha nursing school. Thus began the legend of the 'Fighting Nurses', the 'Monsters of Mercy', the 'Frozen Nightingales.'

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    1. Clarkson
    2. UW
    3. UM
    4. St L
    5. BC
    6. NE
    7. Q
    8. BU
    9. OSU
    10.Bob M.

    Love the cool colored scoring graph. How about one for returning D and goalies next week.
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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Quote Originally Posted by Leather helmet View Post
    The original NYT story about the championship game attributed the win to Clarkson College, an Omaha nursing school. Thus began the legend of the 'Fighting Nurses', the 'Monsters of Mercy', the 'Frozen Nightingales.'
    Ah, so who do you have in 10th then? haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger20 View Post
    Ah, so who do you have in 10th then? haha
    If forced to choose, I will put OSU in 10. I think that is a team on the rise.

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    1) Clarkson
    2) Minnesota
    3) Wisconsin
    4) Boston College
    5) Colgate
    6) Northeastern
    7) St. Lawrence
    8) UMD
    9) Robert Morris
    10) Cornell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leather helmet View Post
    The original NYT story about the championship game attributed the win to Clarkson College, an Omaha nursing school. Thus began the legend of the 'Fighting Nurses', the 'Monsters of Mercy', the 'Frozen Nightingales.'
    It was the LA Times and how can you forget USCHO having Cornell winning the championship in the original lede??

    And Tiley is back for CCT, so how can goaltending be an issue??

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    It was the LA Times and how can you forget USCHO having Cornell winning the championship in the original lede??

    And Tiley is back for CCT, so how can goaltending be an issue??
    In the spirit of the times, I will assert that my post was based on alternative facts, and I stand behind it.

    As for the goaltending, I just said there was a question mark. It turns out that the answer to that question is Tiley, so not a bad answer.

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Until I see the second coming of Cayley Mercer and Genevieve Bannon from two of the returnees or freshmen

    1) Wisconsin
    2) Minnesota
    3) Clarkson Early season Clarkson/Northeastern and Clarkson/Bemidji series will be a good indicator of this team's strengths/weaknesses
    4) Boston College
    5) Colgate
    6) Northeastern
    7) St. Lawrence
    8) UMD
    9) Cornell
    10) Robert Morris
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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    1. Clarkson - Roses are red, violets are blue, with Tiley in net what's gonna get through?
    2. Wisconsin - Roses are red, violets are blue, their four lines will stick to you like glue.
    3. BC - Roses are red, violets are blue, Burt and Barnes, seems like their overdue.
    4. Minnesota - Roses are red, violets are blue, Zoom Boom's aim will be true.
    5. Colgate - Roses are red, violets are blue, That much return scoring will have others looking up to.
    6. Cornell - Roses are red violets are blue, mistakenly labeled champs last year, but maybe that headline this year will be worth a redo?
    7. St Lawrence - Roses are red, violets are blue, Will there be enough momentum from last year to carry through?
    8. UMD - Roses are red, violets are blue, freshmen in numbers will be their renew.
    9. Northeastern - Roses are red, violets are blue, second fiddle to BC seems like deja vu
    10. Quinnipiac - Roses are red, violets are blue, Bobcats have talent so what's new?
    It seems long overdue for the men's program at the U to make a coaching change.

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Nicely done, FiveHole.
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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Roses are red, violets are blue, in 2018 Sacred Heart becomes relevant too.

    Understand they we able to bring in some very solid players off of the "late bloomers list."

    Say what you want but in the big picture, you have to hope I'm right. More competition is better for everyone.

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Does the Alliance get enough "juice" from the numbers to have a top 8 PWR??

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Probably not. They will have to beef up the schedule.

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Does the Alliance get enough "juice" from the numbers to have a top 8 PWR??
    I actually addressed this earlier in the year and a bunch of people on the board acted like I was looking for attention.

    https://www.bcinterruption.com/bosto...ls-anselm-post

    The joke will be on them when the 2018 Pre-Champs Manual is released and the NCAA actually addresses the problem because I brought it up.

    Short answer: Yes, I expect at least one Alliance team to be in the top 8 of the PWR. Because they are almost exclusively playing each other, the RPI would be able to detect much of a difference between the alliance teams and the rest of the regular D1 programs, relative to strength of schedule (it can't tell that these teams are "bad" relative to the others if they only play them a couple times). 5-6 losses will easily get a team from the scheduling alliance in.

    St. A's is the team you have to worry about. They were 7-0 or something against the other alliance teams and the games weren't particularly close. But from what I understand, there will be a bit of a tweak to the criteria to address this (you're welcome).
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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Nicely done. Thank you.

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    Re: USCHO Poster's Poll: '17-'18

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeymakesmebroke View Post
    Nicely done. Thank you.
    No problem -- welcome to the forum!

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