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    The constipation issue is pretty much resolved. What was missing was oats and high intensity activity.

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    I believe chronic fatigue was a misdiagnosis, and it was simple overtraining that led to being so f-cking tired.

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    Clearly a one-sided report, with Mayo declining to respond, but interesting nonetheless.

    Family says Mayo was trying to abduct their daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Clearly a one-sided report, with Mayo declining to respond, but interesting nonetheless.

    Family says Mayo was trying to abduct their daughter.
    Admittedly, I'm a supporter of Mayo. But starting with the line that the patient had virtually no chance of survival and progressing quickly to obscenities, I have some doubts about this one. 1) They see thousands of patients a day - not surprising that at some point they'll have some issues 2) This is not a bank - they literally save the lives of hundreds a day and potentially lives that may not have been saved elsewhere. I think giving some slack is due. 3) It even appears that CNN is walking on egg shells with how much positioning this one's getting. Questionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Admittedly, I'm a supporter of Mayo. But starting with the line that the patient had virtually no chance of survival and progressing quickly to obscenities, I have some doubts about this one. 1) They see thousands of patients a day - not surprising that at some point they'll have some issues 2) This is not a bank - they literally save the lives of hundreds a day and potentially lives that may not have been saved elsewhere. I think giving some slack is due. 3) It even appears that CNN is walking on egg shells with how much positioning this one's getting. Questionable.
    Here is the thing about the Mayo Clinic. If your head just fell off of your shoulders one day, that's the place where I'd want it to happen because if there is a way to keep you alive in that situation, they will figure it out.

    But, the Mayo Clinic, as a business and organization, is nasty. I can tell you this from personal experience. When talking about Mayo it is extremely important to remember those differences. They would throw a wheelchair bound 80 year old into the street if she was interfering with their business expansion plans, then turn around and have one of their doctors restore her ability to walk.

    This young lady was saved by a medical miracle that can really only be performed at Mayo and perhaps a couple of other locations. The problem afterward is that she ended up having to deal at length with the corporation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Clearly a one-sided report, with Mayo declining to respond, but interesting nonetheless.

    Family says Mayo was trying to abduct their daughter.
    Reminded me of this,

    https://www.naturalnews.com/042999_B...Pelletier.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Clearly a one-sided report, with Mayo declining to respond, but interesting nonetheless.

    Family says Mayo was trying to abduct their daughter.
    Wow, thats quite the story
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonofSouthie View Post
    Yeah, the family who escaped the Mayo Clinic reached out to the Pelletier family after a family friend clued them in on that story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Yeah, the family who escaped the Mayo Clinic reached out to the Pelletier family after a family friend clued them in on that story.
    Oh wow, didn't know that.

    Here's another from Boston Children's.

    https://medicalkidnap.com/2015/04/24...-disagreement/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonofSouthie View Post

    This is why you should NEVER take your child to a conventional hospital unless it's an absolutely life-and-death emergency.
    And this is where I stopped reading. I wish people would post real articles about newsworthy events instead of screeds from advocacy sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    And this is where I stopped reading. I wish people would post real articles about newsworthy events instead of screeds from advocacy sites.
    Yeah. Medical malpractice insurance is of great value on society. Beyond that, there are certain institutions that are a target...because they attract readers. Notice that in spite of other major stories, the Mayo story wasn't just a front page story...it was the screaming headline. That's editorial positioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Yeah. Medical malpractice insurance is of great value on society. Beyond that, there are certain institutions that are a target...because they attract readers. Notice that in spite of other major stories, the Mayo story wasn't just a front page story...it was the screaming headline. That's editorial positioning.
    The mayo story was at least cnn, which still had journalistic standards. I'm referring to the follow-up postings.

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    Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Clearly a one-sided report, with Mayo declining to respond, but interesting nonetheless.

    Family says Mayo was trying to abduct their daughter.
    Although I do not have any direct knowledge of this patient (and full disclosure I have several colleagues and friends at Mayo), I can say that there are many errors in this report that I can say with pretty high certainty. Some may know I am critical of some of Mayo's practices but I can assure you that they are more than capable of following standard of care for this type of patient and unless there is convincing evidence otherwise, I would assume they did everything to the best of their ability.

    I do not have the time right now to go into it deeply (busy inpatient service right now) but off the top I can say this patient was not on a neurology service, but a neurosurgery service. Frequently confused but very different. Aneurysms and their subsequent subarachnoid hemorrhage is managed by neurosurgeons, with possibly neurology as a consult to help with the almost inevitable seizures. The neurosurgeons would be the ones continuing the opiates.

    These type of patients are literally the sickest people in the hospital for the first 2-3 weeks after rupture (as long as the surgeons can secure the aneurysm) but if you get them through that, they are the type of people that will walk back into your ICU in a year to thank you.

    Briefly on the transfer, often you cannot transfer a patient because of insurance reasons. There are regulations that you cannot transfer a patient to a "less capable" hospital. For instance, if you transfer from a primary hospital to a tertiary care hospital, the insurance will not cover transfer out because by definition the tertiary care facility can offer every available treatment. Mayo is often referred to as a "quaternary care" facility (particularly for neuro related cases) so they likely have trouble fulfilling transfer requests.

    I may add more later in the week but the tl;dr version is that there are enough clear, easy enough to correct errors throughout this entire piece that I seriously question the accuracy of anything said in it.
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