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    Quote Originally Posted by Bale View Post
    It's always interesting when these types of comments are made because it's usually based on one or two games in which the reffing has been shaky. The numbers, frankly, don't bear out that opinion. MSU is the 3rd most penalized team in the conference. I'm not sure how that translates into MSU being given too many gifts. I suspect the bad reffing in the Saturday night MSU/MTU game is stuck in your craw (and, by the way, I don't blame you for that as it was atrocious).
    I'll base it on the entire season, so far. Many of these officials aren't qualified to officiate a PeeWee game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdt1081 View Post
    I'll base it on the entire season, so far. Many of these officials aren't qualified to officiate a PeeWee game.
    So please tell us, in your infinite hockey wisdom, where you find enough people who are more qualified and have the ability to take nearly every Thursday & Friday off their primary jobs from October to March?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdt1081 View Post
    I'll base it on the entire season, so far. Many of these officials aren't qualified to officiate a PeeWee game.
    Have you watched more than 2 msu games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RapidsCity View Post
    So please tell us, in your infinite hockey wisdom, where you find enough people who are more qualified and have the ability to take nearly every Thursday & Friday off their primary jobs from October to March?
    Open the wallet. It's the only choice. Can't afford it, maybe it's time to start asking why you're in the hockey business. The personnel currently employed are obviously not working out very well. When you have players being injured as a result of un-penalized, illegal hits, and other legal hits being called for penalties or 5 minute majors you have a big problem.

    Serious question: How does a player get called for "interference" when he checks the player in control of the puck? And I'm not talking making the check simultaneously to the player getting the puck. I've seen it called multiple times.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bale View Post
    Have you watched more than 2 msu games?
    I've actually watched 3, but only because they were playing the team I follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bale View Post
    It's always interesting when these types of comments are made because it's usually based on one or two games in which the reffing has been shaky. The numbers, frankly, don't bear out that opinion. MSU is the 3rd most penalized team in the conference. I'm not sure how that translates into MSU being given too many gifts. I suspect the bad reffing in the Saturday night MSU/MTU game is stuck in your craw (and, by the way, I don't blame you for that as it was atrocious).
    That's a fair point, but it's one thing for a ref to make a bad call or two after calling a relatively even/good game. They're only human, and they're reffing a high-speed sport.

    But more than once this season, I've seen a ref looking straight at two players when one spears the other, or offers a pretty good slash, yet nothing is called even though he was looking straight on just feet away. It's things like this that make me question the ability of some of the zebras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deman View Post
    That's a fair point, but it's one thing for a ref to make a bad call or two after calling a relatively even/good game. They're only human, and they're reffing a high-speed sport.

    But more than once this season, I've seen a ref looking straight at two players when one spears the other, or offers a pretty good slash, yet nothing is called even though he was looking straight on just feet away. It's things like this that make me question the ability of some of the zebras.
    I don't disagree, but this is a recurring theme with every conference, every year. We can sit and argue about how awful the officiating is, but I'm not sure it's that big of an issue. Yes, there are games this year that people (including me) have left severely disappointed with the refs. I'm just not certain that it's as bad as everyone argues that it is. We all also need to remember that what they see is from a different vantage point than we see it. Sometimes it's just not as bad as we think it is.
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    Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

    Just curious, has anyone here that's complaining actually officiated a game at any point in the past 10 years? Just curious.

    You don't become a D-1 official by accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    Just curious, has anyone here that's complaining actually officiated a game at any point in the past 10 years? Just curious.

    You don't become a D-1 official by accident.
    The best refs and the best coaches are always in the stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davyd83 View Post
    The best refs and the best coaches are always in the stands.
    Correction...they are on internet message boards.

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    Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

    Thanks to the WCHA Blog. Again the missed a game on Thursday, December 28th.

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    Congratulations to NMU on the big win over Mankato. I think that means NMU has the inside track to second place at the end of the year. I also think BG better be careful or they will fall to forth or even fifth.
    On the other hand LSSU is really struggling, and I don't see them making it. Congratulations to Huntsville for getting in.
    We have very few non conf games going forward, we have to win all of those games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manurespreader View Post
    Congratulations to NMU on the big win over Mankato. I think that means NMU has the inside track to second place at the end of the year. I also think BG better be careful or they will fall to forth or even fifth.
    On the other hand LSSU is really struggling, and I don't see them making it. Congratulations to Huntsville for getting in.
    We have very few non conf games going forward, we have to win all of those games.
    Hard to feel like UAH is a lock right now considering the Chargers have only scored three goals during a four-game losing streak, being outshot 157-62 in the process. Granted, it's been against the toughest teams in the league, all during an insane road stretch, and I think we'll eventually be fine, but it's kinda rough right now.
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    The Beavers are no unbeaten in their last 7 (4-0-3). Onto Lake State and hopefully two more wins!

    The Beavers, 24 points, have two games in hand on league leader Mankato (36 points) and second place Northern (31 points). They are even in games played with third place Bowling Green (28 points) and four games in hand on Michigan Tech (28 points).

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaverhockeyfan View Post
    The Beavers are no unbeaten in their last 7 (4-0-3). Onto Lake State and hopefully two more wins!

    The Beavers, 24 points, have two games in hand on league leader Mankato (36 points) and second place Northern (31 points). They are even in games played with third place Bowling Green (28 points) and four games in hand on Michigan Tech (28 points).
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    Two good NC wins tonight. Congrats to Tech and BG for getting the job done against the Big 7.

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    WCHA Non-Conference totals:

    25 NCHC Games (3-14-4)
    15 Big10 Games (5-10-0)
    3-5 Hockey East Games (2-0-0)
    7 Atlantic Hockey Games (2-4-1)
    5 ECAC Games (2-3-0)
    6-7 Independent Games (2-1-0)
    5-6 Interleague Games (Not counted in league total)
    7 Exhibitions (Not counted in league or team total)
    TOTAL: 16-32-5

    ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (1-5-0)
    -2 at Notre Dame L 3-5, L 0-4
    -2 at Cornell L 1-5, L 0-3
    -2 at Arizona State L 2-3, W 3-1

    ALASKA (2-3-1)
    -Simon Fraser (EXH) W 6-0
    -2 with Air Force L 2-3, T 1-1
    -2 at St. Cloud L 3-6, L 4-5 (OT)
    -at Alaska-Anchorage W 6-2
    -Alaska-Anchorage W 3-2

    ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (0-5-1)
    -Simon Fraser (EXH) W 6-1
    -2 with North Dakota T 1-1, L 2-3 (OT)
    -2 at Colorado College L 1-6, L 2-3
    -Alaska L 2-6
    -at Alaska L 2-3

    BEMIDJI STATE (3-2-1)
    -Minnesota-Duluth W 5-2
    -at Minnesota-Duluth T 0-0
    -2 with Air Force W 4-1, L 1-5
    -2 @ Princeton W 5-3, L 1-4
    -North Dakota
    -at North Dakota

    BOWLING GREEN (3-4-1)
    -Wilfrid Laurier (EXH) W 3-1
    -US Under 18 Team (EXH) W 4-1
    -at Western Michigan L 1-3
    -Michigan State W 3-1
    -at Michigan State L 2-3
    -2 with Miami L 3-6, T 2-2
    -Western Michigan L 2-5
    -vs. Michigan (Detroit) W 6-4
    -Michigan Tech (Detroit) W 4-1

    FERRIS STATE (3-5-0)
    -at Western Michigan L 1-6
    -Western Michigan W 3-2
    -2 at Mercyhurst W 3-2, L 1-4
    -2 at Michigan L 2-7, W 3-2 OT
    -at Michigan State L 2-3 OT
    -Michigan State L 1-3
    -US Under 18 Team (EXH) L 1-5

    LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (2-5-1)
    -Laurentian (EXH) W 3-2
    -Northern Michigan W 5-2
    -at Northern Michigan L 1-4
    -2 at Denver T 3-3, L 1-5
    -2 at Michigan State L 3-4, L 0-6
    -vs. Robert Morris (Pittsburgh) L 0-5
    -vs. Arizona State (Pittsburgh) W 4-1

    MICHIGAN TECH (3-2-0)
    -at Wisconsin L 2-3
    -vs. Union (Duluth) W 6-3
    -vs. Minnesota-Duluth (Duluth) W 4-3
    -vs. Michigan State (Detroit) W 5-2
    -vs. Bowling Green (Detroit) L 1-4
    -vs. Boston College (Las Vegas)
    -vs. Arizona State/Northern Michigan (Las Vegas)
    -2 with Arizona State

    MINNESOTA STATE (2-2-0)
    -Regina (EXH) W 8-0
    -St. Cloud State L 0-4
    -2 at Boston University W 6-3, W 3-0
    -at Minnesota-Duluth L 1-3
    -at St. Cloud State
    -Minnesota-Duluth
    -US Under 18 Team (EXH)

    NORTHERN MICHIGAN (2-4-0)
    -at Lake Superior State L 3-5
    -Lake Superior State W 4-1
    -2 vs. Wisconsin (Green Bay) W 5-4 (OT), L 0-4
    -2 at Nebraska-Omaha L 3-4, L 1-4
    -vs. Arizona State (Las Vegas)
    -vs. Boston College/Michigan Tech (Las Vegas)
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    Quote Originally Posted by potternmu View Post
    Two good NC wins tonight. Congrats to Tech and BG for getting the job done against the Big 7.
    Results were enough to push the Mavs up one spot in the Pairwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potternmu View Post
    Two good NC wins tonight. Congrats to Tech and BG for getting the job done against the Big 7.
    Another solid NC win by Huskies ... MTU 4 - BC 3

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    2017-18 WCHA Non-Conference Schedule

    25 NCHC Games (3-14-4)
    15 Big10 Games (5-10-0)
    4 Hockey East Games (3-0-1)
    7 Atlantic Hockey Games (2-4-1)
    5 ECAC Games (2-3-0)
    7 Independent Games (2-3-0)
    5 Interleague Games (Not counted in league total)
    8 Exhibitions (Not counted in league or team total)
    TOTAL: 17-34-6

    ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (1-5-0)
    -2 at Notre Dame L 3-5, L 0-4
    -2 at Cornell L 1-5, L 0-3
    -2 at Arizona State L 2-3, W 3-1

    ALASKA (2-3-1)
    -Simon Fraser (EXH) W 6-0
    -2 with Air Force L 2-3, T 1-1
    -2 at St. Cloud L 3-6, L 4-5 (OT)
    -at Alaska-Anchorage W 6-2
    -Alaska-Anchorage W 3-2

    ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (0-5-1)
    -Simon Fraser (EXH) W 6-1
    -2 with North Dakota T 1-1, L 2-3 (OT)
    -2 at Colorado College L 1-6, L 2-3
    -Alaska L 2-6
    -at Alaska L 2-3

    BEMIDJI STATE (3-2-1)
    -Minnesota-Duluth W 5-2
    -at Minnesota-Duluth T 0-0
    -2 with Air Force W 4-1, L 1-5
    -2 @ Princeton W 5-3, L 1-4
    -North Dakota
    -at North Dakota

    BOWLING GREEN (3-4-1)
    -Wilfrid Laurier (EXH) W 3-1
    -US Under 18 Team (EXH) W 4-1
    -at Western Michigan L 1-3
    -Michigan State W 3-1
    -at Michigan State L 2-3
    -2 with Miami L 3-6, T 2-2
    -Western Michigan L 2-5
    -vs. Michigan (Detroit) W 6-4
    -Michigan Tech (Detroit) W 4-1

    FERRIS STATE (3-5-0)
    -at Western Michigan L 1-6
    -Western Michigan W 3-2
    -2 at Mercyhurst W 3-2, L 1-4
    -2 at Michigan L 2-7, W 3-2 OT
    -at Michigan State L 2-3 OT
    -Michigan State L 1-3
    -US Under 18 Team (EXH) L 1-5

    LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (2-5-1)
    -Laurentian (EXH) W 3-2
    -Northern Michigan W 5-2
    -at Northern Michigan L 1-4
    -2 at Denver T 3-3, L 1-5
    -2 at Michigan State L 3-4, L 0-6
    -vs. Robert Morris (Pittsburgh) L 0-5
    -vs. Arizona State (Pittsburgh) W 4-1

    MICHIGAN TECH (4-3-0)
    -at Wisconsin L 2-3
    -vs. Union (Duluth) W 6-3
    -vs. Minnesota-Duluth (Duluth) W 4-3
    -vs. Michigan State (Detroit) W 5-2
    -vs. Bowling Green (Detroit) L 1-4
    -vs. Boston College (Las Vegas) W 4-3
    -vs. Arizona State (Las Vegas) L 2-3
    -2 with Arizona State

    MINNESOTA STATE (2-2-0)
    -Regina (EXH) W 8-0
    -St. Cloud State L 0-4
    -2 at Boston University W 6-3, W 3-0
    -at Minnesota-Duluth L 1-3
    -at St. Cloud State
    -Minnesota-Duluth
    -US Under 18 Team (EXH)

    NORTHERN MICHIGAN (2-5-1)
    -at Lake Superior State L 3-5
    -Lake Superior State W 4-1
    -2 vs. Wisconsin (Green Bay) W 5-4 (OT), L 0-4
    -2 at Nebraska-Omaha L 3-4, L 1-4
    -vs. Arizona State (Las Vegas) L 3-7
    -vs. Boston College (Las Vegas) T 3-3
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