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  • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

    Originally posted by Squarebanks View Post
    I thought we were friends.
    I'd say the same thing about us, too.

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    • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

      Originally posted by Bale View Post
      Meh....hockey is too fluky of a game to think that losing one game on an eleven day road trip is reason to change opinions of a team's season.
      That's the problem for the WCHA. Even if you want to say a tournament-caliber team has a 90% chance of beating a bottom-10 team, MSU has played eight games against the bottom-10(and has four more to go), which gives them about an 11% chance of winning all eight.

      Seven wins in their final 10 regular season games puts them in a range between 7th and 14th in the PWR. That, plus making it to the championship game in the conference playoffs should be enough to get them an at-large berth.
      Originally posted by dicaslover
      Yep, you got it. I heart Maize.

      Originally posted by Kristin
      Maybe I'm missing something but you just asked me which MSU I go to and then you knew the theme of my homecoming, how do you know one and not the other?

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      • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

        Originally posted by MaizeRage View Post
        That's the problem for the WCHA. Even if you want to say a tournament-caliber team has a 90% chance of beating a bottom-10 team, MSU has played eight games against the bottom-10(and has four more to go), which gives them about an 11% chance of winning all eight.

        Seven wins in their final 10 regular season games puts them in a range between 7th and 14th in the PWR. That, plus making it to the championship game in the conference playoffs should be enough to get them an at-large berth.
        Agreed. But i'd say that winning the next two will give them a lot more leeway than if they don't.
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        • Originally posted by manurespreader View Post
          Agreed. But i'd say that winning the next two will give them a lot more leeway than if they don't.
          Absolutely. Win the next 2, and we could absorb 4 or 5 losses the rest of the way and still get an at-large bid. Split the next 2, and that drops to around 3 losses. Lose them both and it’s auto bid or bust

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          • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

            25 NCHC Games (3-15-5)
            15 Big10 Games (5-10-0)
            4 Hockey East Games (3-0-1)
            7 Atlantic Hockey Games (2-4-1)
            5 ECAC Games (2-3-0)
            7 Independent Games (2-3-0)
            5 Interleague Games (Not counted in league total)
            8 Exhibitions (Not counted in league or team total)
            TOTAL: 17-35-7

            ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (1-5-0)
            -2 at Notre Dame L 3-5, L 0-4
            -2 at Cornell L 1-5, L 0-3
            -2 at Arizona State L 2-3, W 3-1

            ALASKA (2-3-1)
            -Simon Fraser (EXH) W 6-0
            -2 with Air Force L 2-3, T 1-1
            -2 at St. Cloud L 3-6, L 4-5 (OT)
            -at Alaska-Anchorage W 6-2
            -Alaska-Anchorage W 3-2

            ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (0-5-1)
            -Simon Fraser (EXH) W 6-1
            -2 with North Dakota T 1-1, L 2-3 (OT)
            -2 at Colorado College L 1-6, L 2-3
            -Alaska L 2-6
            -at Alaska L 2-3

            BEMIDJI STATE (3-3-2)
            -Minnesota-Duluth W 5-2
            -at Minnesota-Duluth T 0-0
            -2 with Air Force W 4-1, L 1-5
            -2 @ Princeton W 5-3, L 1-4
            -North Dakota L 1-5
            -at North Dakota T 2-2

            BOWLING GREEN (3-4-1)
            -Wilfrid Laurier (EXH) W 3-1
            -US Under 18 Team (EXH) W 4-1
            -at Western Michigan L 1-3
            -Michigan State W 3-1
            -at Michigan State L 2-3
            -2 with Miami L 3-6, T 2-2
            -Western Michigan L 2-5
            -vs. Michigan (Detroit) W 6-4
            -Michigan Tech (Detroit) W 4-1

            FERRIS STATE (3-5-0)
            -at Western Michigan L 1-6
            -Western Michigan W 3-2
            -2 at Mercyhurst W 3-2, L 1-4
            -2 at Michigan L 2-7, W 3-2 OT
            -at Michigan State L 2-3 OT
            -Michigan State L 1-3
            -US Under 18 Team (EXH) L 1-5

            LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (2-5-1)
            -Laurentian (EXH) W 3-2
            -Northern Michigan W 5-2
            -at Northern Michigan L 1-4
            -2 at Denver T 3-3, L 1-5
            -2 at Michigan State L 3-4, L 0-6
            -vs. Robert Morris (Pittsburgh) L 0-5
            -vs. Arizona State (Pittsburgh) W 4-1

            MICHIGAN TECH (4-3-0)
            -at Wisconsin L 2-3
            -vs. Union (Duluth) W 6-3
            -vs. Minnesota-Duluth (Duluth) W 4-3
            -vs. Michigan State (Detroit) W 5-2
            -vs. Bowling Green (Detroit) L 1-4
            -vs. Boston College (Las Vegas) W 4-3
            -vs. Arizona State (Las Vegas) L 2-3
            -2 with Arizona State

            MINNESOTA STATE (2-2-0)
            -Regina (EXH) W 8-0
            -St. Cloud State L 0-4
            -2 at Boston University W 6-3, W 3-0
            -at Minnesota-Duluth L 1-3
            -at St. Cloud State
            -Minnesota-Duluth
            -US Under 18 Team (EXH)

            NORTHERN MICHIGAN (2-5-1)
            -at Lake Superior State L 3-5
            -Lake Superior State W 4-1
            -2 vs. Wisconsin (Green Bay) W 5-4 (OT), L 0-4
            -2 at Nebraska-Omaha L 3-4, L 1-4
            -vs. Arizona State (Las Vegas) L 3-7
            -vs. Boston College (Las Vegas) T 3-3
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            NCAA D-III National Champs: 1986
            NCAA D-II National Champs: 1984, '93, '94, '95, '97
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            • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

              WCHA Standings (Points, Games Played)

              1 Minnesota State 45 20
              2 Northern Michigan 37 18
              3 Bowling Green 34 18
              4 Bemidji State 30 16
              5 Michigan Tech 28 18
              6 Alabama Huntsville 24 20
              7 Alaska 23 18
              8 Ferris State 22 18
              9 Lake Superior 15 18
              10 Alaska Anchorage 12 16

              Conference Schedule remaining:

              Mankato: Anchorage, at Huntsville, Ferris, Bemidji
              Bowling Green: Anchorage, at Lake State, Michigan Tech, at Anchorage, at Huntsville
              Northern: Lake State, at Anchorage, at Huntsville, Alaska, home and home with Tech
              Bemidji: at Ferris, at Huntsville, Lake State, at Tech, Alaska, at Mankato
              Michigan Tech: Alaska, at Ferris, at Bowling Green, Bemidji, home and home with Northern
              Huntsville: Bemidji, Northern, Mankato, Bowling Green
              Alaska: at Tech, Ferris, at Northern, at Bemidji, Anchorage
              Ferris: Bemidji, Tech, at Alaska, at Mankato, Lake State
              Lake State: at Northern, Bowling Green, at Bemidji, at Alaska, at Ferris
              Anchorage: at Bowling Green, Northern, at Mankato, Lake State, Bowling Green, at Alaska
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              NCAA D-III National Champs: 1986
              NCAA D-II National Champs: 1984, '93, '94, '95, '97
              NCAA D-I National Champs: 20??
              Perfect 31-0 in 1983-84
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              • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

                Congrats Mankato on your 5-2 W over St Cloud, helping out both your record and the WCHA's status.

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                • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

                  BSU has two games in hand on everyone else. There's a yawning gap between the top and bottom halves of the league right now.

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                  • Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
                    BSU has two games in hand on everyone else. There's a yawning gap between the top and bottom halves of the league right now.

                    GFM
                    UAA also has two games in hand but it seems that will be inconsequential.
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                    • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

                      http://blog.wchaplayoffs.com/2018/01...below-ratings/

                      Minnesota State and Northern Michigan are in the playoffs now, and strong showing by road teams this weekend would put Bemidji State, Bowling Green, and Michigan Tech in. UAH has the toughest home stretch, hosting the top four teams in the league.

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                      • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

                        WCHA Standings (Points, Games Played). Minnesota State and Northern Michigan have clinched playoff berths (thanks Geof)

                        1 Minnesota State 45 20
                        2 Northern Michigan 43 20
                        3 Bowling Green 40 20
                        4 Bemidji State 36 18
                        5 Michigan Tech 34 20
                        6 Alabama Huntsville 24 20
                        7 Alaska 23 20
                        8 Ferris State 22 20
                        9 Lake Superior State15 20
                        10 Alaska Anchorage 12 18

                        Conference Schedule remaining:

                        Mankato: Anchorage, at Huntsville, Ferris, Bemidji
                        Bowling Green: at Lake State, Michigan Tech, at Anchorage, at Huntsville
                        Northern: at Anchorage, at Huntsville, Alaska, home and home with Tech
                        Bemidji: at Huntsville, Lake State, at Tech, Alaska, at Mankato
                        Michigan Tech: at Ferris, at Bowling Green, Bemidji, home and home with Northern
                        Huntsville: Bemidji, Northern, Mankato, Bowling Green
                        Alaska: Ferris, at Northern, at Bemidji, Anchorage
                        Ferris: Tech, at Alaska, at Mankato, Lake State
                        Lake State: Bowling Green, at Bemidji, at Alaska, at Ferris
                        Anchorage: Northern, at Mankato, Lake State, Bowling Green, at Alaska
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                        NCAA D-III National Champs: 1986
                        NCAA D-II National Champs: 1984, '93, '94, '95, '97
                        NCAA D-I National Champs: 20??
                        Perfect 31-0 in 1983-84
                        Holders of an NCAA Mens Record 43 straight wins (Nov. 8, 1983-Jan. 1, 1985)

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                        • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

                          Originally posted by beaverhockeyfan View Post
                          WCHA Standings (Points, Games Played).
                          1 Minnesota State 45 20
                          2 Northern Michigan 43 20
                          3 Bowling Green 40 20
                          4 Bemidji State 36 18
                          5 Michigan Tech 34 20

                          Conference Schedule remaining:
                          Michigan Tech: at Ferris, at Bowling Green, Bemidji, home and home with Northern
                          Tech has a tough schedule, but if they don't finish in the top half they have no one to blame but themselves. They have six points up for grabs against each of the three teams immediately above them yet this season. If you want to be the best you need to beat the best.
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                          • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

                            Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View Post
                            Tech has a tough schedule, but if they don't finish in the top half they have no one to blame but themselves. They have six points up for grabs against each of the three teams immediately above them yet this season. If you want to be the best you need to beat the best.
                            Ryan
                            yes but even if they sweep Bemidji next month they would still need help from someone else in order to go by them in the standings.
                            now here's a question. After the first round, say a lower seeded team has won and has to play another lower seeded team that also won. At what rink would that series be played. ? Same for the semi's. let's say BG comes to NMU and wins, and lets say whoever plays mankato also wins. At whose rink will that next series be played?
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                            • Originally posted by manurespreader View Post
                              yes but even if they sweep Bemidji next month they would still need help from someone else in order to go by them in the standings.
                              now here's a question. After the first round, say a lower seeded team has won and has to play another lower seeded team that also won. At what rink would that series be played. ? Same for the semi's. let's say BG comes to NMU and wins, and lets say whoever plays mankato also wins. At whose rink will that next series be played?
                              Highest seed hosts every round, so in your scenario BG would host the Championship. That assumes MSU is 1 and NMU is 2.
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                              • Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

                                Originally posted by manurespreader View Post
                                yes but even if they sweep Bemidji next month they would still need help from someone else in order to go by them in the standings.
                                now here's a question. After the first round, say a lower seeded team has won and has to play another lower seeded team that also won. At what rink would that series be played. ? Same for the semi's. let's say BG comes to NMU and wins, and lets say whoever plays mankato also wins. At whose rink will that next series be played?
                                BG. Highest remaining seed gets to host.
                                Originally posted by dicaslover
                                Yep, you got it. I heart Maize.

                                Originally posted by Kristin
                                Maybe I'm missing something but you just asked me which MSU I go to and then you knew the theme of my homecoming, how do you know one and not the other?

                                Western College Hockey Blog

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