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  • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

    He's the most popular politician right now so... fine?

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      Again, the problem isn't Bernie, its a subset of his supporters who believe nobody has done anything over the last 40 years for the Dems until he came along. Somebody (might have been trix) was arguing that Dem have done nothing for blacks over that time so that's why they didn't show up. This of course completely ignores the efforts Dems have made to secure the right to vote for African Americans despite the unrelenting attacks on that from the right. 50 years ago the poll tax was still around. Since them Dems have given us motor-voter law, expanded voting days, same day registration, gone to court a gazillion times to fight voter ID laws and last minute law changes in order to disenfranchise blacks, etc. All that tends to go unacknowledged by the Susan Sarandon wing of the left.

      I'd also point out the only, and I mean only, time the NRA has lost on capitol hill in the past 40+ years is to Bill Clinton with the Brady Bill and assault weapons ban. Pretty liberal accomplishment in my book.
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        Well yeah they’ve done the bare minimum of trying to secure voter rights because they know they need their votes to win.

        What I meant was they haven’t done much to help achieve economic justice in this country/dem controlled states and that’s true because they haven’t.

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        • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

          If you have Cuomo on your list, you may want to rethink his inclusion

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          • Originally posted by joecct View Post
            If you have Cuomo on your list, you may want to rethink his inclusion

            http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/n...&template=mwdt
            That is crazy. But he should just cry “fake news” and “what about the emails” and “Russia” and stop mentioning it ever again.
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            • Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
              That is crazy. But he should just cry “fake news” and “what about the emails” and “Russia” and stop mentioning it ever again.
              He can also say "I built a bridge with my Dad's name on it.
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              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                Not sure about Cuomo's prospects but this is a nothing story that happens in like every other state in the country. IMHO the floodgates opened with the courts overturned former VA Gov McDonnell's conviction even though he was directly steering state business to the company of a guy who was directly funding he and his wife's lavish lifestyle.
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                  Originally posted by Rover View Post
                  Not sure about Cuomo's prospects but this is a nothing story that happens in like every other state in the country. IMHO the floodgates opened with the courts overturned former VA Gov McDonnell's conviction even though he was directly steering state business to the company of a guy who was directly funding he and his wife's lavish lifestyle.
                  I don't see Cuomo as a serious national contender.
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                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    I don't see Cuomo as a serious national contender.
                    Couldn't tell you at this point but if we eliminated all candidates who appointed people to govt positions after they received a campaign donation from them there wouldn't be 5 politicians left to run for higher office!
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                    • Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      Couldn't tell you at this point but if we eliminated all candidates who appointed people to govt positions after they received a campaign donation from them there wouldn't be 5 politicians left to run for higher office!
                      But making contributions AFTER you got the job speaks of (a) an installment plan or (b) a thank you gift.
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                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        Couldn't tell you at this point but if we eliminated all candidates who appointed people to govt positions after they received a campaign donation from them there wouldn't be 5 politicians left to run for higher office!
                        I'd rather not go there. Albany is a den of vipers and more corrupt than Baton Rouge. Both parties have bodies stacked five deep. Leave it be.
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                          Originally posted by joecct View Post
                          But making contributions AFTER you got the job speaks of (a) an installment plan or (b) a thank you gift.
                          It speaks of "we're all in bed with each other" and if you didn't realize that already you've lived one fuk of a sheltered life.

                          Kep, I'm not discounting anybody at this point. If Cuomo manages to inspire the base and get people to turn out, then by all means he can be the nominee and I'll happily support him. Way too early to start enforcing litmus tests until we actually see people campaigning.
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                            Originally posted by Rover View Post
                            Kep, I'm not discounting anybody at this point. If Cuomo manages to inspire the base and get people to turn out, then by all means he can be the nominee and I'll happily support him. Way too early to start enforcing litmus tests until we actually see people campaigning.
                            A preference is not a litmus test. The Dems already have a crippling image problem being seen as a gang of out of touch, incestuous, dynastic cronies. Governor My Daddy Spoke Well hardly helps dispel that. I'd rather run a meatball like Oprah if it came to that. At least we'd get the braindead reflexive "outsider" voter.
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                            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

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                              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                                Couldn't tell you at this point but if we eliminated all candidates who appointed people to govt positions after they received a campaign donation from them there wouldn't be 5 politicians left to run for higher office!
                                we seem to be eliminating any poor soul who's ever fancied a boobie too , so be prepared
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