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  • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
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    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Me too. None of them were able to build organizations last time with the Clintonistas sucking all the air out of the room. Now that the witch is dead we are due for a forest fire to burn off all the deadwood.
      The author should've stopped to consider how foolish that article is going to sound in a decade. I don't really care what people think of the Clintons at the moment. Sure, 1/3 to 1/2 of the party is presently spitting on them, but over time a majority of those people will come to their senses.

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      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        The author should've stopped to consider how foolish that article is going to sound in a decade. I don't really care what people think of the Clintons at the moment. Sure, 1/3 to 1/2 of the party is presently spitting on them, but over time a majority of those people will come to their senses.
        Nobody denies Bill was a very important part of the Democratic effort in the 90s. But she wasn't and their attempted coronation hurt both the party and more obviously the country.

        Everybody knew even at his height that the Clintons were always about the Clintons. When we could use them for our ends, that was fine. But the last decade it just got in our way and f-cked things up. No doubt once they are safely in the ground there will be a massive beatification, because dead heroes serve a purpose.
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        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          Nobody denies Bill was a very important part of the Democratic effort in the 90s. But she wasn't and their attempted coronation hurt both the party and more obviously the country.

          Everybody knew even at his height that the Clintons were always about the Clintons. When we could use them for our ends, that was fine. But the last decade it just got in our way and f-cked things up. No doubt once they are safely in the ground there will be a massive beatification, because dead heroes serve a purpose.
          Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an overseas audience this week that her 2016 election loss came at the hands of "backwards"-looking voters who "didn't like black people getting rights" or women in the workplace.

          https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ackwards-voter
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          • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an overseas audience this week that her 2016 election loss came at the hands of "backwards"-looking voters who "didn't like black people getting rights" or women in the workplace.

            https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ackwards-voter
            That's not inaccurate. In fact you can choose one of any of the hundreds of reasons and just run with it at any time and not be wrong.

            This is also correct.

            "I won the places that represent two-thirds of America's gross domestic product. So I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward. And his whole campaign, 'Make America Great Again,' was looking backwards." - Hillary Rodham Clinton
            Too many people in this country want the 50's back. Good luck to you all.
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            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an overseas audience this week that her 2016 election loss came at the hands of "backwards"-looking voters who "didn't like black people getting rights" or women in the workplace.

              https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ackwards-voter
              That was nice of her to put it so gently and not hurt your feefees.

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              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an overseas audience this week that her 2016 election loss came at the hands of "backwards"-looking voters who "didn't like black people getting rights" or women in the workplace.
                Butt hurt is a great look for a public figure.

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                • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                  Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                  That was nice of her to put it so gently and not hurt your feefees.
                  Well, she didn't mention they're all lazy, unemployable, didn't apply themselves in school, and only survive because of welfare. So, restraint.
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                    She ran for the wrong job.

                    What can one say???
                    a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Well, she didn't mention they're all lazy, unemployable, didn't apply themselves in school, and only survive because of welfare. So, restraint.
                      It's going to be tricky surgery carving out the 33% while at the same time convincing the ultra picky 66% to actually vote. I wish the Democrats luck. They don't have to convince me.
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                      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                        I think folks are too hard on Hillary. By any measure, she was one of the most qualified first time candidates ever, she was quite popular (sure she was hated in some circles but so was Obama), and without Comey, she'd be probably be the president heroine of the Dem party. Also do not underestimate how strong of a candidate Trump was due to name and familiarity. Regardless when people get to Hillary's (and Trump's) age they're just going to periodically say stupid stuff.
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                        • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                          Originally posted by joecct View Post
                          Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an overseas audience this week that her 2016 election loss came at the hands of "backwards"-looking voters who "didn't like black people getting rights" or women in the workplace.

                          https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ackwards-voter
                          and? she's not wrong.

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                          • Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                            and? she's not wrong.
                            But she still lost and needs to enter the acceptance phase of grief.

                            I also read on yesterday's WaPo the the superdelegate role will be diminished in the next round of the primaries. This may not be a good thing.

                            Let me explain why. If the primary process goes off the rails and the silly party wing takes control, you need a dam to stop the flood. The center (left/right) needs to maintain control of the apparatus and nominate some likeable person who does not rock the boat.
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                            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                              Originally posted by joecct View Post
                              But she still lost and needs to enter the acceptance phase of grief.

                              I also read on yesterday's WaPo the the superdelegate role will be diminished in the next round of the primaries. This may not be a good thing.

                              Let me explain why. If the primary process goes off the rails and the silly party wing takes control, you need a dam to stop the flood. The center (left/right) needs to maintain control of the apparatus and nominate some likeable person who does not rock the boat.
                              She'll finish the grieving process on her on time. She may never finish it. That's up to her.

                              As for where the Democrats end up and who the nominee is, I wouldn't count on anything center holding anything in check. The center is lost.
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                              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers

                                Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                                and? she's not wrong.
                                She's still missing the point unsurprisingly and blaming everyone but herself for losing the easiest election of all time.

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