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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    thus abortion, which they don't really give a **** about, is used to convince people to vote against their own interests so the GOP can funnel more money to the wealthy. Does Joe realize he's being used?
    Nah, he's taking a moral stand.
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    Remind me again which party you vote for...
    I prefer a Tom Clancy solution. Failing that, morally responsible people would fit the bill.

    Since everyone in political Washington is morally bankrupt, I'm not looking back when the brimstone falls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    I prefer a Tom Clancy solution. Failing that, morally responsible people would fit the bill.

    Since everyone in political Washington is morally bankrupt, I'm not looking back when the brimstone falls.
    That is an evasion. On the specific issue you cited there is a significant, substantive policy difference between the parties, with the one you vote for committed to the very thing you hate while the one you don't committed to trying to eradicate it. And yet you vote against your values.

    People do that -- values rarely align perfectly with the parties. But to try to muddy the waters with "BSAB" is obfuscation and deflection. Why not say that in this instance your anti-abortion value more than cancels out your economic justice value? Why pretend that there is no difference between the parties and this drowns your preference on the latter?

    After all, if there is really no difference then there is no reason for you to vote based on the former, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    I prefer a Tom Clancy solution.
    An airliner killing all but about 12 people? How very Christian of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    An airliner killing all but about 12 people? How very Christian of you.
    Well, they're not in the womb at the moment, so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    On the specific issue you cited there is a significant, substantive policy difference between the parties, with the one you vote for committed to the very thing you hate while the one you don't committed to trying to eradicate it.
    Well I'm not sure the more centrist/neoliberal Dems are looking to do anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    That is an evasion. On the specific issue you cited there is a significant, substantive policy difference between the parties, with the one you vote for committed to the very thing you hate while the one you don't committed to trying to eradicate it. And yet you vote against your values.

    People do that -- values rarely align perfectly with the parties. But to try to muddy the waters with "BSAB" is obfuscation and deflection. Why not say that in this instance your anti-abortion value more than cancels out your economic justice value? Why pretend that there is no difference between the parties and this drowns your preference on the latter?

    After all, if there is really no difference then there is no reason for you to vote based on the former, either.
    Why not just go all the way and point out that since abortion will never go away, one of the best ways to reduce it would be to encourage economic justice. If joe really wants to reduce abortions, lifting women out of poverty may be the best way to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Well I'm not sure the more centrist/neoliberal Dems are looking to do anything about it.
    They nibble around the edges. It's true that come the revolution they go to the wall along with Cheney, but in the meantime they are certainly the lesser of two evils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerphisch View Post
    If joe really wants to reduce abortions, lifting women out of poverty may be the best way to do it.
    Really the ONLY way. Abortions will only go away when unwanted pregnancies go away. Educated women who can financially care for their children, born and unborn, rarely have unwanted pregnancies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    They nibble around the edges. It's true that come the revolution they go to the wall along with Cheney, but in the meantime they are certainly the lesser of two evils.
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    Uh, so Schumer and Pelosi now cut a deal with Trump to pass DACA in exchange for increased funding for border security but excluding a wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bronconick View Post
    Uh, so Schumer and Pelosi now cut a deal with Trump to pass DACA in exchange for increased funding for border security but excluding a wall.
    Once again Ryan and McConnell are shown to be the Two Stooges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bronconick View Post
    Uh, so Schumer and Pelosi now cut a deal with Trump to pass DACA in exchange for increased funding for border security but excluding a wall.
    We now go live to Trump Country:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    Every other country isn't the US. Sometimes fortunately, sometimes not.

    We are the greediest, most arrogant country on earth when it comes to the almighty dollar. Sometimes that is a good thing, and sometimes it isn't.

    Edit: and our society, as a whole, is much different than much of the rest of the world. Look at violence, general crime, lack of revolutions (see: Venezuela or the African continent), etc.

    It's very complex, unfortunately.
    Well, if you consider the European nations, not the 'up and coming nations' then look at our violence, general crime. Compared to most of Europe we are embarrassing. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-.../United-States (this site is fascinating and somwehat depressing) It has comparisons for all sorts of dif things- stats on different crimes, age of adult responsibility, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronconick View Post
    Uh, so Schumer and Pelosi now cut a deal with Trump to pass DACA in exchange for increased funding for border security but excluding a wall.
    They better have that in blood. The blowback on Trump is going to make him fold like a cheap suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    The metric system is better for science. But a foot can be divided by 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, and 1/6ths and come out with an even number of inches, that's the beauty of a base 12 system. 1/3 of a meter is .33333 meters, or 3.3333 decimeters, or 33.333 centimeters. 1/3 of a foot is 4 inches.

    Fahrenheit is also better for every day living than Celsius; 0-100 in Fahrenheit encompasses most every day temperatures. 0-100 in Celsius covers the range of liquid water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    They better have that in blood. The blowback on Trump is going to make him fold like a cheap suit.
    It's called negotiation

    Oddly enough one of the benefits when one is from outside a "party" ironically

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