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  • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

    Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
    I suppose it depends what you're looking for.
    No, none of them are bad for the Democratic party. Done.

    They may not be the best ones, but they are not bad. She got the nomination for a reason- enough Democratic voters like what she was proposing.

    Some of dump's (lack of) policy is bad for the Republican party.

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    • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

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      • Originally posted by bronconick View Post
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        NEW: Joe Manchin (D-WV) says Congress should explore a single payer health care system.

        Guess what's very likely to be in the Democratic agenda in 2020 despite Clinton and Kaine.
        It seems like a good idea on paper...

        As Ross Perot said in 1992 "That giant sucking sound..."

        How are we going to pay for it??? After all the goodies get tacked on, the discretionary $$ in the Federal budget will be immaterial. The Feds %#^&## up everything they touch with Empire building and stacks of red tape.

        No.

        Find a way to improve the delivery of care first, as opposed to insurance, then we can talk.
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        • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          It seems like a good idea on paper...

          The Feds %#^&## up everything they touch with Empire building and stacks of red tape.
          Flag on the field. Intentional grounding.

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          • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            It seems like a good idea on paper...

            As Ross Perot said in 1992 "That giant sucking sound..."

            How are we going to pay for it??? After all the goodies get tacked on, the discretionary $$ in the Federal budget will be immaterial. The Feds %#^&## up everything they touch with Empire building and stacks of red tape.

            No.

            Find a way to improve the delivery of care first, as opposed to insurance, then we can talk.
            Medicare For All

            This plan has been estimated to cost $1.38 trillion per year.
            The Plan Would Be Fully Paid For By:

            A 6.2 percent income-based health care premium paid by employers.
            Revenue raised: $630 billion per year.
            A 2.2 percent income-based premium paid by households.
            Revenue raised: $210 billion per year.This year, a family of four taking the standard deduction can have income up to $28,800 and not pay this tax under this plan.A family of four making $50,000 a year taking the standard deduction would only pay $466 this year.
            Progressive income tax rates.
            Revenue raised: $110 billion a year.Under this plan the marginal income tax rate would be:

            37 percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
            43 percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
            48 percent on income between $2 million and $10 million. (In 2013, only 113,000 households, the top 0.08 percent of taxpayers, had income between $2 million and $10 million.)
            52 percent on income above $10 million. (In 2013, only 13,000 households, just 0.01 percent of taxpayers, had income exceeding $10 million.)
            Taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work.
            Revenue raised: $92 billion per year.Warren Buffett, the second wealthiest American in the country, has said that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. The reason is that he receives most of his income from capital gains and dividends, which are taxed at a much lower rate than income from work. This plan will end the special tax break for capital gains and dividends on household income above $250,000.
            Limit tax deductions for rich.
            Revenue raised: $15 billion per year. Under Bernie’s plan, households making over $250,000 would no longer be able to save more than 28 cents in taxes from every dollar in tax deductions. This limit would replace more complicated and less effective limits on tax breaks for the rich including the AMT, the personal exemption phase-out and the limit on itemized deductions.
            The Responsible Estate Tax.
            Revenue raised: $21 billion per year.This provision would tax the estates of the wealthiest 0.3 percent (three-tenths of 1 percent) of Americans who inherit over $3.5 million at progressive rates and close loopholes in the estate tax.
            Savings from health tax expenditures.
            Revenue raised: $310 billion per year. Several tax breaks that subsidize health care (health-related “tax expenditures”) would become obsolete and disappear under a single-payer health care system, saving $310 billion per year.Most importantly, health care provided by employers is compensation that is not subject to payroll taxes or income taxes under current law. This is a significant tax break that would effectively disappear under this plan because all Americans would receive health care through the new single-payer program instead of employer-based health care.
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            • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              It seems like a good idea on paper...

              As Ross Perot said in 1992 "That giant sucking sound..."

              How are we going to pay for it??? After all the goodies get tacked on, the discretionary $$ in the Federal budget will be immaterial. The Feds %#^&## up everything they touch with Empire building and stacks of red tape.

              No.

              Find a way to improve the delivery of care first, as opposed to insurance, then we can talk.
              Duh. How much does your insurance cost you, and your employer?

              No more insurance payments. Increase taxes by some amount less than what your insurance was costing you. Healthcare for everyone for less money.
              What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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              • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                It seems like a good idea on paper...

                As Ross Perot said in 1992 "That giant sucking sound..."

                How are we going to pay for it??? After all the goodies get tacked on, the discretionary $$ in the Federal budget will be immaterial. The Feds %#^&## up everything they touch with Empire building and stacks of red tape.

                No.

                Find a way to improve the delivery of care first, as opposed to insurance, then we can talk.
                I preferred the infomerical where he said that too many CEOs think they deserve to be paid like top bill rockstars. It's true.

                For every Steve Jobs or Alan Mulally that might arguably deserve it, there are hundreds of Bob Nardellis and Carly Fiorinas that don't. Then when they fail, they get a golden parachute to rub salt in the wound.

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                • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

                  As I've asked before:

                  What do you do with all of the current private health insurance companies?

                  And the people who work for them?
                  And their stockholders?

                  And the businesses they buy from and support?
                  And their stockholders?

                  You've just nationalized an industry and made a previously legal line of business illegal.
                  The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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                  • Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                    As I've asked before:

                    What do you do with all of the current private health insurance companies?

                    And the people who work for them?
                    And their stockholders?

                    And the businesses they buy from and support?
                    And their stockholders?

                    You've just nationalized an industry and made a previously legal line of business illegal.
                    You don't necessarily have to outlaw it. I don't think it would make much sense for people to still buy it though. Business and industries come and go over time. The economy adjusts and life goes on.
                    Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                    Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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                    • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

                      Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                      You don't necessarily have to outlaw it. I don't think it would make much sense for people to still buy it though. Business and industries come and go over time. The economy adjusts and life goes on.
                      Nationalizing an industry puts an Ayn Randian chill in the air.
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                      • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

                        Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                        As I've asked before:

                        What do you do with all of the current private health insurance companies?

                        And the people who work for them?
                        And their stockholders?

                        And the businesses they buy from and support?
                        And their stockholders?

                        You've just nationalized an industry and made a previously legal line of business illegal.
                        Hire them to administer the new program, the current Healthcare $ already pay for all of them to have jobs. Over time right size the workforce.

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                        • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

                          Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                          As I've asked before:

                          What do you do with all of the current private health insurance companies?

                          And the people who work for them?
                          And their stockholders?

                          And the businesses they buy from and support?
                          And their stockholders?

                          You've just nationalized an industry and made a previously legal line of business illegal.
                          Those poor buggy-whip makers. Won't anyone feel sorry for them?
                          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                          • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

                            Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                            Nationalizing an industry puts an Ayn Randian chill in the air.
                            Paul Ryan should be all for it then. Popping a chubby as we speak.
                            What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                            • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

                              Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                              As I've asked before:

                              What do you do with all of the current private health insurance companies?

                              And the people who work for them?
                              And their stockholders?

                              And the businesses they buy from and support?
                              And their stockholders?

                              You've just nationalized an industry and made a previously legal line of business illegal.
                              http://www.canadian-healthcare.org/page4.html

                              What's so important about private health insurance in America having to downsize jobs for specialization that wasn't important enough to save the jobs in the auto industry, steel industry, etc.
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                              • Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

                                Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                                As I've asked before:

                                What do you do with all of the current private health insurance companies?

                                And the people who work for them?
                                And their stockholders?

                                And the businesses they buy from and support?
                                And their stockholders?

                                You've just nationalized an industry and made a previously legal line of business illegal.
                                Why do you give a ****? No one gives a **** about any other industry. Except Coal which Trump is hard for but it dying anyway.
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                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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