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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Fishing has been way off this year.

    The state needs to do more to attract younger educated people to the more rural parts of the state. I would give any person with a bachelor degree under 40 who will live in Hancock, Washington, or any of the interior counties 10 years with no state income tax. I think the medicare expansion will hurt a lot as far as attracting people to the state.
    Taxes are like 100th on the list of reasons young people choose to live places. Look at the list of places with the most young professionals and they are all blue state big cities with high tax burdens. People looking to stretch their legs from living in Boston move to Portland because they can still enjoy "big city lite" cuisine and entertainment, and it is a lot cheaper and slower paced.

    You can buy a house in Millinocket for 46 cents and a smile. I don't see urban professionals beating down that door.

    Medicare expansion keeping young people away? Look at the age/education spread from any election or poll. Those under 40 with college degrees overwhelmingly support Democrats, overwhelmingly support universal healthcare, and overwhelmingly support policies that aren't "LET'S CUT TAXES!!!!!" Those who make "DON'T EXPAND MEDICARE" a big thing skew as white males, over-40 and lacking a degree. Not exactly high growth demographics for rural Maine. We've got that guy in spades Downeast and up north.

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    Terrific post AMC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by umhockey91 View Post
    Terrific post AMC!
    Second that. It was what I was thinking but not going to write.

    Anything but D1 for UMO is just crazy talk.
    The State can afford it.

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    Taxes are like 100th on the list of reasons young people choose to live places. Look at the list of places with the most young professionals and they are all blue state big cities with high tax burdens. People looking to stretch their legs from living in Boston move to Portland because they can still enjoy "big city lite" cuisine and entertainment, and it is a lot cheaper and slower paced.

    You can buy a house in Millinocket for 46 cents and a smile. I don't see urban professionals beating down that door.

    Medicare expansion keeping young people away? Look at the age/education spread from any election or poll. Those under 40 with college degrees overwhelmingly support Democrats, overwhelmingly support universal healthcare, and overwhelmingly support policies that aren't "LET'S CUT TAXES!!!!!" Those who make "DON'T EXPAND MEDICARE" a big thing skew as white males, over-40 and lacking a degree. Not exactly high growth demographics for rural Maine. We've got that guy in spades Downeast and up north.
    The tax idea might be far from perfect, but what else can the state really do? I think as millennials get into their 30's and are ready to start a family taxes do start to matter. These are the folks we should be trying to attract. Maine has a lot to offer and you can be reasonably assured that even if the economy tanks you are not going to lose your house or anything like that. I'd much rather have a $200K mortgage in a bad economy than a $600K mortgage.

    Do you have any ideas to turn things around?
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    Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthMike View Post
    Second that. It was what I was thinking but not going to write.

    Anything but D1 for UMO is just crazy talk.
    The State can afford it.
    Agreed. The only way I could see it is if the whole conference decided to drop down or something like that.
    Originally posted by BobbyBrady
    Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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    The tax idea might be far from perfect, but what else can the state really do? I think as millennials get into their 30's and are ready to start a family taxes do start to matter. These are the folks we should be trying to attract. Maine has a lot to offer and you can be reasonably assured that even if the economy tanks you are not going to lose your house or anything like that. I'd much rather have a $200K mortgage in a bad economy than a $600K mortgage.

    Do you have any ideas to turn things around?
    It's great to want college educated folks to move to let's just say Millinocket. What good is a tax break if they cant make a living? Taxing zero is a losing situation.

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    It's great to want college educated folks to move to let's just say Millinocket. What good is a tax break if they cant make a living? Taxing zero is a losing situation.

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    Maybe get some of the work from home crowd? Maine would be a good place for them(at least in places where there is decent internet.)
    Originally posted by BobbyBrady
    Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Maybe get some of the work from home crowd? Maine would be a good place for them(at least in places where there is decent internet.)
    Decent internet? Hahahahaha Hahahaha

    That's a good one.

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    "A lot of people have asked me over the years how I ended up in Orono. I went to be a student-athlete. I went to learn from Red Gendron and the late Shawn Walsh…and most of all, Grant Standbrook."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    "A lot of people have asked me over the years how I ended up in Orono. I went to be a student-athlete. I went to learn from Red Gendron and the late Shawn Walsh…and most of all, Grant Standbrook."
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    Good to see Kariya coming out of hibernation & even throwing out some support for Gendron. Classy & what you would expect from an alum that still cares about the program. 🏒

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    Decent internet? Hahahahaha Hahahaha

    That's a good one.
    ...And that's a huge deal. Unlimited internet access is a necessity these days, not a "privilege".

    Maine, and all the rural areas in the U.S., have to get that done. Otherwise, who can possibly make a professional go of it here, when we can't rely on that basic tool to check-in with work, and what-not?

    Don't get me wrong, not knocking Maine... I have recently moved back into the woods and back into the Stone Age right here in New York. But GD, if you don't have workable cell-service or internet, you're pretty-well screwed in our society.

    That should be the very first priority of the Trump regime, unless he likes having a bunch of rednecks in the dark. (Oh, wait... that's who elected him, sorry!)

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    Taxes are like 100th on the list of reasons young people choose to live places. Look at the list of places with the most young professionals and they are all blue state big cities with high tax burdens. People looking to stretch their legs from living in Boston move to Portland because they can still enjoy "big city lite" cuisine and entertainment, and it is a lot cheaper and slower paced.

    You can buy a house in Millinocket for 46 cents and a smile. I don't see urban professionals beating down that door.

    Medicare expansion keeping young people away? Look at the age/education spread from any election or poll. Those under 40 with college degrees overwhelmingly support Democrats, overwhelmingly support universal healthcare, and overwhelmingly support policies that aren't "LET'S CUT TAXES!!!!!" Those who make "DON'T EXPAND MEDICARE" a big thing skew as white males, over-40 and lacking a degree. Not exactly high growth demographics for rural Maine. We've got that guy in spades Downeast and up north.
    Well, yeah.

    Trump appealed to the redneck-fringe, but he caught lightning in a bottle on that one. I don't see it happening again.

    (Nice post, BTW.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    ...And that's a huge deal. Unlimited internet access is a necessity these days, not a "privilege".

    Maine, and all the rural areas in the U.S., have to get that done. Otherwise, who can possibly make a professional go of it here, when we can't rely on that basic tool to check-in with work, and what-not?

    Don't get me wrong, not knocking Maine... I have recently moved back into the woods and back into the Stone Age right here in New York. But GD, if you don't have workable cell-service or internet, you're pretty-well screwed in our society.

    That should be the very first priority of the Trump regime, unless he likes having a bunch of rednecks in the dark. (Oh, wait... that's who elected him, sorry!)
    The gamers I watch from England and Holland have nice big 75-100Mbps pipes and pay less for it than the piddling 15Mbps (usually closer to 10) I get. They feel such pity for Americans (for more than just our internet). I tried streaming on Twitch and YouTube but my internet can't handle it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    The gamers I watch from England and Holland have nice big 75-100Mbps pipes and pay less for it than the piddling 15Mbps (usually closer to 10) I get. They feel such pity for Americans (for more than just our internet). I tried streaming on Twitch and YouTube but my internet can't handle it.
    Let's face it...in many ways the U.S. is the Third World of "civilized" countries. It's what you get when the 1% run the show and hoard everything for themselves.

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    Probably should keep politics out of here.

    Maine has a fiber line setup in a 3 ring binder. But only a few places have fiber into the home. Orono and Old Town have it, Rockport has it. Spectrum just did copper down my road, fiber is within 3 miles of me but no chance of getting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Probably should keep politics out of here.
    That I agree with.

    My initial point re: Maine shouldn't be in D-I boiled down to me missing winning. And it seems like the answer to "how can Maine win?" in pretty much all sports is "find a miracle worker coach." Getting lucky shouldn't be a long term plan, and if it is the only feasible plan, you have structural issues that perhaps demonstrate you are out of your depth.

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    That I agree with.

    My initial point re: Maine shouldn't be in D-I boiled down to me missing winning. And it seems like the answer to "how can Maine win?" in pretty much all sports is "find a miracle worker coach." Getting lucky shouldn't be a long term plan, and if it is the only feasible plan, you have structural issues that perhaps demonstrate you are out of your depth.
    I'm not sure "lucky" is the only way. I think they blew it in 2002( i know hindsight but I was saying it on here then also) when Tyler didn't do what their own "rules" said they should do. Thats a national search. if Tim was the best guy after that, then hire away. At that point I'm thinking lots of folks were interested in the job. At this point the losing has caused Alfond to be a shell of its former self. No corporate money and no sell outs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Probably should keep politics out of here.

    Maine has a fiber line setup in a 3 ring binder. But only a few places have fiber into the home. Orono and Old Town have it, Rockport has it. Spectrum just did copper down my road, fiber is within 3 miles of me but no chance of getting it.

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    I hear you, brother....

    We are within a half-mile of the the Spectrum cable, and we called them to b**** and moan. They said to pass the hat around the "neighborhood" and raise like 90K to string it the extra few feet.. That'll work, right?

    We have to drive back to town to stream a Maine game at my ex's. She's an angel for allowing that, but no d*** wonder half the Red States have no idea what's going on, since they have no real access to all the information that's out there.

    I hear you that this isn't supposed be about politics here, but politics -especially dumb politics- even mess with our access to hockey, FCS.
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    Congrats on your former player Paul Kariya's induction into the HOF!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    I hear you, brother....

    We are within a half-mile of the the Spectrum cable, and we called them to b**** and moan. They said to pass the hat around the "neighborhood" and raise like 90K to string it the extra few feet.. That'll work, right?
    $90K for a half mile of fiber? That would be considered a bargain in 2000

    Who are your options for alternatives to Spectrum? Hahahahaha. Sorry.

    That's the thing driving internet in other countries. One guy I follow on Twitch has 13 choices for broadband access so they keep getting faster connections, better service and lower prices. Here the cable company tells us to bend over and will make us pay for the benefit of some Vaseline.

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