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  • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Faith groups do provide the bulk of disaster recovery...

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ema/651007001/

    The Seventh Day Adventists, over several decades, have established a unique expertise in disaster “warehousing” collecting, logging, organizing and distributing relief supplies, in cooperation with government disaster response agencies.

    The United Methodist Committee on Relief is known for its expertise in “case management.” After the initial cleanup — where the Methodists have work crews helping pull mud out of houses — the church sends trained volunteers into the wreckage to help families navigate the maze of FEMA assistance, state aid programs and private insurance to help them rebuild their lives. The group have 20,000 trained volunteers around the country who can be called up for "early response teams," basically small crews that can help with debris removal and home cleanup, said Cathy Earl, UMCOR's director of disaster programs.

    The Convoy of Hope, a non-denominational Christian organization, specializes in feeding. Before Hurricane Irma made landfall in Florida, the Springfield, Mo.,-based Convoy had three trailer trucks stocked with food, water and sanitary supplies parked in the state waiting to deploy to areas hardest hit, said spokesman Jeff Nene.

    Samaritan’s Purse, an evangelical aid group run by Rev. Franklin Graham, has trucks at the ready in Florida with chainsaws and debris removal experts to help clean up houses. After initial cleanup, the group has contracting services available to help the needy rebuild their homes. The group has responded to 20 disasters already this year, said Luther Harrison, vice president of North American Ministries for Samaritan’s Purse.

    ...ok...now back to your steady stream of negativity.
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    • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

      Originally posted by 5mn_Major
      now back to your steady stream of negativity.
      When people make negative statements about abuses of faith that doesn't reflect on faith per se. That's like somebody claiming that the conviction of Harvey Glatman was anti-semitic.
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      • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        When people make negative statements about abuses of faith that doesn't reflect on faith per se.
        Don't you find it odd that you post strictly and continuously on abuses of faith...and not any other abuses? If I start a thread on education, will your day be filled with posting abuses of education?
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        • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

          Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
          Don't you find it odd that you post strictly and continuously on abuses of faith...and not any other abuses? If I start a thread on education, will your day be filled with posting abuses of education?
          In what universe do you live? Do you read the political forums on here?
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          • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
            Don't you find it odd that you post strictly and continuously on abuses of faith...and not any other abuses?
            On this thread? No, for some reason I don't find it odd at all.

            As for "strictly," my posts in the last week have been about the finer technical points of hypostates and early Christian doctrine, as they are from time to time. Those just don't summon your wahmbulance.

            Religion is far too rich and broad to be wholly negative or positive about. You're burnt because I am utterly dismissive of religious literalism as a childish mistaking of the map for the territory and too often a malevolent tool deliberately wielded by charlatans to inspire the weak-minded to bigotry and violence. You cloak your resentment by ostentatiously wrapping that target of literalism in the garb of all religion, perhaps out of chicanery but more likely because as a purblind fundamentalist you sincerely jam all religion into that tight, mentally and morally asphyxiating, box*.

            It is natural to lash out at someone who calls your heartfelt beliefs sanctimonious rubbish. And your heartfelt beliefs are sanctimonious rubbish.

            But... and this is important... not anybody else's.

            Just yours.

            * "When I mention religion, I mean the Christian religion; and not only the Christian religion, but the Protestant religion; and not only the Protestant religion, but the Church of England!" -- Thwackum, Tom Jones, Henry Fielding
            Last edited by Kepler; 09-11-2017, 10:09 AM.
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            • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

              Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
              Don't you find it odd that you post strictly and continuously on abuses of faith...and not any other abuses? If I start a thread on education, will your day be filled with posting abuses of education?
              Classic Christian Persecution Complex. And you have it in spades.
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              • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                It is natural to lash out at someone who calls your heartfelt beliefs sanctimonious rubbish. And your heartfelt beliefs are sanctimonious rubbish.
                I have nothing negative to say to you about your beliefs...which is our difference.

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                But... and this is important... not anybody else's.

                Just yours.
                As someone who posts so much negativity in this thread, a b&w atheist calling my faith bs is a complement. 'Rubbish' just adds charm.
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                • Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                  I have nothing negative to say to you about your beliefs...which is our difference.
                  So you have nothing to say about nothing? Bold strategy Cotton...
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                  • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                    I have nothing negative to say to you about your beliefs...which is our difference.
                    Says the guy who has previously argued that atheists have contributed nothing to philosophy or society.

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                    • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                      Says the guy who has previously argued that atheists have contributed nothing to philosophy or society.
                      Not true. I have always fully agreed that atheists have contributed to philosophy and society.

                      Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                      So you have nothing to say about nothing? Bold strategy Cotton...
                      Even if you don't believe, you still have a belief.
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                      • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                        Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                        Not true. I have always fully agreed that atheists have contributed to philosophy and society.



                        Even if you don't believe, you still have a belief.
                        Would you like direct quotes where your religion/theory of nothing have been spouted on this site? They been repeated more than once.

                        If you don't believe, then you have no belief. I know it's tough for you to believe that, but it's true. I have no belief. It's not something I believe, it's a matter of fact - I have no belief.
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                        • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                          Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                          Even if you don't believe, you still have a belief.
                          No. You don't have a belief concerning Ishtar. Ishtar is simply not in your scope of beliefs. She is not in the universe of your existants; her absence is not an existant. A negation is not a positive thing.

                          There are literally an infinite number of made up gods that aren't in your scope. An atheist merely adds yours.
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                          • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                            In what universe do you live? Do you read the political forums on here?
                            Saved me typing. The obvious answer is in the Alt Universe (ba-dum tsssshhhhh)

                            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                            I have nothing negative to say to you about your beliefs...which is our difference.
                            As someone who posts so much negativity in this thread, a b&w atheist calling my faith bs is a complement. 'Rubbish' just adds charm.
                            If this isn't revisionist history.... Or perhaps I need a translator to understand things better. I already need one for everything to do with government. I could be slipping and need one for reading comprehension as well.

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                            • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              Would you like direct quotes where your religion/theory of nothing have been spouted on this site? They been repeated more than once.

                              If you don't believe, then you have no belief. I know it's tough for you to believe that, but it's true. I have no belief. It's not something I believe, it's a matter of fact - I have no belief.
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                              • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                                Would you like direct quotes where your religion/theory of nothing have been spouted on this site? They been repeated more than once.
                                Contrary to FTB and in spite of your moving goal post, my position is/was that Atheists provide plenty of value. Yet Atheism is unlikely to be the contributing factor. It is really just a doctrine of 'no' towards faith...and offers little else from which anyone could get positive inspiration/direction. And no evidence has been provided to the contrary (but I don't have time to continue this discussion at this point).

                                If you don't believe me...look it up. But I am very meticulous as posters here too often resort to 'gotcha' when they don't have anything else.

                                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                                If you don't believe, then you have no belief. I know it's tough for you to believe that, but it's true. I have no belief. It's not something I believe, it's a matter of fact - I have no belief.
                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                No. You don't have a belief concerning Ishtar. Ishtar is simply not in your scope of beliefs.
                                Argument for argument sake?

                                Definition of belief - something that is accepted, considered to be true, or held as an opinion
                                https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belief

                                Does Kepler not have an opinion on the matter?
                                Last edited by 5mn_Major; 09-11-2017, 03:28 PM.
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