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  • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    If believing there's a man in the sky makes you do nice things, then good -- do that.

    If you believe you're playing well because you're getting laid, or because you're not getting laid, or because you wear women's underwear, then you are.
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    • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      If believing there's a man in the sky makes you do nice things, then good -- do that.
      You still don't get it. This has nothing to do with 'believing there's a man in the sky'. It has to do with the content giving support to millions. But if disbelieving there's a man in the sky gives you reason to feel superior -- do that.
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      • Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
        You still don't get it. This has nothing to do with 'believing there's a man in the sky'. It has to do with the content giving support to millions. But if disbelieving there's a man in the sky gives you reason to feel superior -- do that.
        Tough to square that outlook with the first commandment, but I digress since we've beaten that horse to death.

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        • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

          Originally posted by unofan View Post
          Tough to square that outlook with the first commandment, but I digress since we've beaten that horse to death.
          Hopefully not on the sabbath.
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          • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

            Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
            But if disbelieving there's a man in the sky gives you reason to feel superior -- do that.

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            • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

              Originally posted by unofan View Post
              Tough to square that outlook with the first commandment, but I digress since we've beaten that horse to death.
              Jesus' ministry was not spent showing how to believe...it was based on how to behave/love - which was supported by many other commandments. The miracles were about improving the lives of others. In the end, God is love. Its all rather simple.
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              • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                Jesus' ministry was not spent showing how to believe...it was based on how to behave/love - which was supported by many other commandments. The miracles were about improving the lives of others. In the end, God is love. Its all rather simple.
                Do you believe in the Apostles' Creed?

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                • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                  Originally posted by burd View Post
                  Do you believe in the Apostles' Creed?
                  Its a prayer. And I use it if that's what you mean.
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                  • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                    Jesus' ministry was not spent showing how to believe...it was based on how to behave/love - which was supported by many other commandments. The miracles were about improving the lives of others. In the end, God is love. Its all rather simple.
                    Especially when raining Hellfire on two different cities. Can you feel the love?
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                    • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                      Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                      Its a prayer. And I use it if that's what you mean.
                      How do you use it? Do you accept the literal meaning of the words? I understand "literal meaning" is not terribly useful,

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                      • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                        Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                        Its a prayer. And I use it if that's what you mean.
                        I thought its purpose was to be a statement of beliefs equivalent to reaffirming your baptism every time you say it.

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                        • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                          Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
                          I thought its purpose was to be a statement of beliefs equivalent to reaffirming your baptism every time you say it.
                          I suppose it depends on your denomination.

                          Originally posted by burd View Post
                          How do you use it? Do you accept the literal meaning of the words? I understand "literal meaning" is not terribly useful,
                          I do accept them. And I get why its important - its a reaffirmation that's easy. But I don't use it often and neither do other Christians I know. In fact, I feel there are better directions to go with prayer. Because the AC content does not come from the prayer and is not directed towards either an outcome or God's approach.

                          Recently I attended a course called Alpha (Christianity 101) often attended by the faith curious. The first day was primarily spent making the case for God. I told everyone I didn't think it was the correct approach and it should have been focused on 'who is God'. In the end, one shouldn't consider marriage unless they know their spouse.
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                          • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                            Thing is, I really like what I understand to be 5mn's philosophy of christianity. Where I lose contact is his readiness to distinguish between christians and others who have a similar philosophy about living but may be muslim, agnostic, or athiest. Religion can be (and usually is) highly metaphorical, and religious texts can be the most elegant and demanding writing out there. But I struggle to understand 5mn on a very basic level, and that is why I asked what the Apostles' Creed means to him. Is any part of that attestation necessary to being "christian?"

                            edit: this reads like a third person message to you, 5mn. I was just responding to les.

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                            • Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
                              I thought its purpose was to be a statement of beliefs equivalent to reaffirming your baptism every time you say it.
                              That and the Nicean Creed. This is what we believe. This is what we stand for.
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                              • Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

                                Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                                In the end, God is love. Its all rather simple.
                                You still don't get it. Nobody is arguing that God is not a way. The fallacy is God is the way.
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