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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I'm gonna guess cuz... it's nonsense?
    I know I initially walked away because of the sex abuse scandal and the Church's failure to adequately respond to it. I never bothered looking for another denomination or faith though. As time has rolled on, I've continued to settle into agnosticism, while concluding that all organized religion is pretty much ritualistic pablum that is supposed to give scared people the warm-and-fuzzies. If you feel that it helps you, great, but it shouldn't be an excuse for you to put-down or harm others who disagree with your dogma.
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    http://www.quietpublications.com/len...nday-year-b-2/

    This is the devotion for the day from one of the women in my church. Thought of it when I read your post. (short, under 400 words)

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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    As time has rolled on, I've continued to settle into agnosticism, while concluding that all organized religion is pretty much ritualistic pablum that is supposed to give scared people the warm-and-fuzzies. If you feel that it helps you, great, but it shouldn't be an excuse for you to put-down or harm others who disagree with your dogma.
    Church attracts those who are vulnerable - because the Bible is such a great tool for personal development. The result of this is that there are predators who show up...but also has many folks that have their act together.

    There are two general types of churches 1) those focused on a ritual approach - reading scripture, singing hymns and centering around communion and 2) those that are strictly focused on lessons designed to deliver value for your day to day. Personally, I can't do the #1 experience any more. The #2 churches can be powerful, but you need to be able to discern which are positive churches which from my experience are more likely found in large cities. Many believe 'they don't have anything to learn' but just as people spend time reading internet news to get new ideas...incorporating positive experiences inspired by teachings into your life is very powerful. As I mentioned, #2 positive churches are the homes to the most healthy people I've ever encountered.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I know I initially walked away because of the sex abuse scandal and the Church's failure to adequately respond to it. I never bothered looking for another denomination or faith though. As time has rolled on, I've continued to settle into agnosticism, while concluding that all organized religion is pretty much ritualistic pablum that is supposed to give scared people the warm-and-fuzzies. If you feel that it helps you, great, but it shouldn't be an excuse for you to put-down or harm others who disagree with your dogma.
    My buddy, a former poster here, actually, walked away due to their treatment of the GLBT people. And he's an otherwise fairly socially conservative man by MN standards.
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    It's a book of our true stories
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Why do you always try to shut down Christian speech but try to protect the speech of pagans and atheists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    Why do you always try to shut down Christian speech but try to protect the speech of pagans and atheists?
    Oh, I want her speaking. To the most people she can reach.

    Dipsh-ts like her make our job that much easier.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    Why do you always try to shut down Christian speech but try to protect the speech of pagans and atheists?
    Put down is not the same as shut down. Marketplace of ideas and all that.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Put down is not the same as shut down. Marketplace of ideas and all that.
    I think Kep knows I was not serious. Poorly played, I guess, but emoticons don't come easily.

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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Put down is not the same as shut down. Marketplace of ideas and all that.
    Do skeptics participate in a 'marketplace of ideas' elsewhere? They really don't bring anything to the table here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    I think Kep knows I was not serious. Poorly played, I guess, but emoticons don't come easily.
    Yes, I got it. I was playing back to the joke, not reacting against it. I wish I could say my awkward wording was a play on your awkward wording -- that would have been clever.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Do skeptics participate in a 'marketplace of ideas' elsewhere? They really don't bring anything to the table here.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Do skeptics participate in a 'marketplace of ideas' elsewhere? They really don't bring anything to the table here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    What like my post 10 back?

    I'm not running at 25% of all posts in this thread with no ideas of my own. You're meme response is great though. You make this so easy.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Hard to make a contribution to a locked box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Hard to make a contribution to a locked box.
    Ouch.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Hard to make a contribution to a locked box.
    I'll pray to give you strength.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    I'll pray to give you strength.
    Translation: "I'm going to do nothing except act humbly smug towards you while thinking I've contributed something of value to society."
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Translation: "I'm going to do nothing except act humbly smug towards you while thinking I've contributed something of value to society."
    Speaking of adding tangible value...

    The largest charities of 2017 are out. Four of the top 5 were founded by Christian ideals and are still inspired - with faith being a common thread throughout the line up again this year.

    1. The United Way
    2. Taskforce for Global Health
    3. Feeding America
    4. Salvation Army
    5. St. Jude Childrens

    https://www.forbes.com/top-charities/list/#tab:rank
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Speaking of adding tangible value...

    The largest charities of 2017 are out. Four of the top 5 were founded by Christian ideals and are still inspired - with faith being a common thread throughout the line up again this year.

    1. The United Way
    2. Taskforce for Global Health
    3. Feeding America
    4. Salvation Army
    5. St. Jude Childrens

    https://www.forbes.com/top-charities/list/#tab:rank
    And which four are they? Because you should know that St. Jude isn't a faith-based or even faith-affiliated organization.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Speaking of adding tangible value...

    The largest charities of 2017 are out. Four of the top 5 were founded by Christian ideals and are still inspired - with faith being a common thread throughout the line up again this year.

    1. The United Way
    2. Taskforce for Global Health
    3. Feeding America
    4. Salvation Army
    5. St. Jude Childrens

    https://www.forbes.com/top-charities/list/#tab:rank
    In what way is that charity list related to the non-action of you praying for someone else to have strength? What relation does your single act of inaction have to do with charities that were founded through religion? You're not rebutting anything I stated, only pivoting openly and badly.
    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

    "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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