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    "Interesting. So when will right-wing Christians acknowledge that the "moderate majority" of Muslims do the same with their radicals, and allow them to be held to that equal standard, then?"

    Why don't white supremacists do the same with racial matters? Because the right wing is the right wing first and foremost. Don't think the existence of race, religion, nation states is to blame for bad extremist perspective and behavior.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    How do progressively-minded Christians reconcile the socially conservative parts of the Bible (marry your brother's widow, stone the adulterers, gays are an abomination), with 21st century society and politics? If you subscribe to all of the lovey-dovey/hopey-changey "social justice" ideas in a sacred tome whose writings were inspired by your deity, then surely you don't get to just ignore that other stuff merely because you disagree with it, or because "times change". If God really has changed his mind, then why hasn't He sent us a prophet with an update? Or did He, and it turned out to be even more conservative, nakedly racist, and just plain awkward than either of the first two testaments combined?
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    How do progressively-minded Christians reconcile the socially conservative parts of the Bible (marry your brother's widow, stone the adulterers, gays are an abomination), with 21st century society and politics?
    Although divinely inspired, the Old Testament was written via human interpretation. Jesus is God and set the record straight. Jesus created a new covenant - done. Top priority is to treat your neighbors well and believe in God...and God is love.

    Jesus says He "fulfilled the old law" and did so by interpreting it. But he clearly repositioned to emphasize that good behavior is my responsibility (or yours if your a Christian) - and not one for a Christian to apply to others. See "don't throw stones" passage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Although divinely inspired, the Old Testament was written via human interpretation. Jesus is God and set the record straight. Jesus created a new covenant - done. Top priority is to treat your neighbors well and believe in God...and God is love.

    Jesus says He "fulfilled the old law" and did so by interpreting it. But he clearly repositioned to emphasize that good behavior is my responsibility (or yours if your a Christian) - and not one for a Christian to apply to others. See "don't throw stones" passage.
    The new testament wasn't written via human interpretation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    The new testament wasn't written via human interpretation?
    and away we go!

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    and away we go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I want it noted that I didn't start the fire.
    It was always burning since the world was turning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Although divinely inspired, the Old Testament was written via human interpretation. Jesus is God and set the record straight. Jesus created a new covenant - done. Top priority is to treat your neighbors well and believe in God...and God is love.

    Jesus says He "fulfilled the old law" and did so by interpreting it. But he clearly repositioned to emphasize that good behavior is my responsibility (or yours if your a Christian) - and not one for a Christian to apply to others. See "don't throw stones" passage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Uh, what?
    Jesus wrote parts of the New Testament close to 100 years after being nailed to the crucifix. Fact.
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    I'll say.

    Family Research Council president Tony Perkins urged conservative Christian listeners of his radio program on Wednesday to run for positions on their local public school boards to combat gender identity education programs because those programs make it harder for children to be taught the gospel.

    On the August 23 episode of Family Research Council’s “Washington Watch” radio program, Perkins shared a report about parents who complained to a school board in California that a discussion about gender identity in a kindergarten classroom had left their children “confused.” According to Perkins, the lesson was part of a larger plot to prevent churches from reaching children with their message.

    “They’re going after your children with these agendas because they know if they can change the hearts and minds of these kids and confuse them as young as five years old—folks, they’ve cut you off at the pass,” Perkins told listeners. “They’re trying to create greater confusion in the minds of these kids. It’s going to make it difficult even to reach them with the gospel.”
    It's all been downhill since kids started learning about racial equality in schools. Why, it's now almost impossible to teach that slavery is a Biblically-endorsed doctrine unless you homeschool them!
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I'll say.



    It's all been downhill since kids started learning about racial equality in schools. Why, it's now almost impossible to teach that slavery is a Biblically-endorsed doctrine unless you homeschool them!
    The number of people turning away from the Bible has increased with each passing generation of children since literacy has become the norm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    The number of people turning away from the Bible has increased with each passing generation of children since literacy has become the norm.
    Education and religiosity are inversely related. The US is a spectacular outlier because of other cultural factors (a.k.a., we have enormous swathes that haven't made it to the 18th century yet).
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    But of course...


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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    But of course...


    After seeing what happened to the SuperDome during/after Katrina, he didn't want the place to get dirty.

    Also, maybe it is in an inaccessible location?? Like you'd have to walk on water to get there?

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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    But of course...


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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    The new testament wasn't written via human interpretation?
    You must admit there's a difference between the attribution of certain events to God by individuals in the OT...and specific statements, deeds and actions of Jesus in the New. The former were simple reports of outcomes as reported by humans...the latter were specific solutions given by the Word (i.e., God).

    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Jesus wrote parts of the New Testament close to 100 years after being nailed to the crucifix. Fact.
    And therefore because it couldn't possibly be documented in some other form...it must be made up? Has to be a top five crutch excuse used to 'believe' God can't exist.
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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    But of course...


    Good to see Christian based/founded organizations taking on significant amount of the Houston relief efforts - the National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster (NVOAD), the American Red Cross, the Salvation Army, and Catholic Charities USA to name a few.

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    Re: Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    You must admit there's a difference between the attribution of certain events to God by individuals in the OT...and specific statements, deeds and actions of Jesus in the New. The former were simple reports of outcomes as reported by humans...the latter were specific solutions given by the Word (i.e., God).
    Says you.

    According to most major Christian denominations, including Catholicism, the Old Testament is just as much the Word of God as the New Testament.

    And therefore because it couldn't possibly be documented in some other form...it must be made up?
    Not necessarily, but it's highly suspect that you casually throw out half the Bible as tainted by human hands while believing the other half is the literal Word of God. Seems consistency would demand you either believe it all, or none, rather than picking and choosing based on the fairly arbitrary BC vs. AD.

    What, the Romans in 50 BC can't be trusted, but the apostles in 100 AD can be?
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