I was at a wedding and away from the news all day. What did I miss?
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Watching MSNBC, interesting that the question of 25th Amendment, Section 4 keeps coming up.
Over, under about that?
Given the ratcheting up of people abandoning dump, and his increase in anger- I'm thinking that Christmas is when we see President Pence. Or at least someone other that dump. He's going to be unhinged, and I Kelly may have to do something to contain him. Especially if NK gets worse.
Wow, 10min of that was too much. Too many excuses and apologies. They seem to think that dump said meant actual policies. Can't they tell by now that dump has zero agenda? He's done nothing to do anything at all in congress. Nothing. They think that he's going to actually do work and promote some kind of agenda that is going to revive the coal, steel, and whatever other thing that is in decline.
Lest we forget, when dump wanted to look into unfair steel dumping into the US to save US jobs, imports INCREASED to the US. Not decreased, no increased jobs, more money left this country.
They are about both. That is the beautiful thing about the real world things have multiple meanings. These are racist icons and are symbols of a bunch of traitors. (many of whom where...wait for it...RACISTS!!) This isnt rocket science.
That's why I said "mostly."
And that is also why I ask, in a serious tone, not a mocking one (as Trump did), where is the line? Honest question. Are there other memorials/statues that will be torn down in the future? If so, who and why? Are there "untouchables?" If so, why? Do certain people get a pass because of the position they held, or level of importance in American history? What if they were all the racist for a while, then changed their views?
I really would like to hear people's input. It's a sticky and difficult subject to discuss for obvious reasons, but IMO, it needs to be discussed. I mentioned earlier, and I agreed with you, that Lake Calhoun's name change was silly (for those not in the know, a local lake was reverted back to the Native American name, because of Calhoun's racism). I don't think this practice will end, but there will be a line drawn. I am curious as to where everyone thinks society will draw that line?
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Watching MSNBC, interesting that the question of 25th Amendment, Section 4 keeps coming up.
Over, under about that?
Given the ratcheting up of people abandoning dump, and his increase in anger- I'm thinking that Christmas is when we see President Pence. Or at least someone other that dump. He's going to be unhinged, and I Kelly may have to do something to contain him. Especially if NK gets worse.
Congress has to agree to it, and the way I read it, Trump could just keep filing written declarations to re-assume his powers, and make them vote on it every 21 days for the rest of his term. So, it's a sloppy way to go about it. Also, I don't think Trump fits the definition. None of his issues (stupidity, bellicosity, narcissism, racism) are mentally or physically incapacitating to the point that he's unable to carry out the duties of office. They also aren't crimes.
Either Mueller builds a criminal case that they can use to impeach him, or we're stuck with him through 2020. I do however, suspect that "The Generals" have a verbal agreement with enough members of the rest of the cabinet that if Trump orders a preemptive nuclear strike because Lil Kim says something that hurts his fee-fees, they have the majority needed to Article 25 him immediately, so they can temporarily avert the crisis.
And that is also why I ask, in a serious tone, not a mocking one (as Trump did), where is the line? Honest question. Are there other memorials/statues that will be torn down in the future? If so, who and why? Are there "untouchables?" If so, why? Do certain people get a pass because of the position they held, or level of importance in American history? What if they were all the racist for a while, then changed their views?
I really would like to hear people's input. It's a sticky and difficult subject to discuss for obvious reasons, but IMO, it needs to be discussed. I mentioned earlier, and I agreed with you, that Lake Calhoun's name change was silly (for those not in the know, a local lake was reverted back to the Native American name, because of Calhoun's racism). I don't think this practice will end, but there will be a line drawn. I am curious as to where everyone thinks society will draw that line?
This all comes out in negotiation between the different groups in our country. Each of our lines will be different -- the national consensus will be the line, and it will always be fluid. Popular sovereignty is messy, but it's the best system we have so far.
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