POTUS 45.16 - If Never Forgotten, One Would ALWAYS Remember Something.

[JF_Gophers]

North Carolina proves again that they're lost. Lost.

Republicans passed a bunch of things knowing they may lose the governor's race to hamper the dems in fixing issues.

[Russell Jaslow]

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The swastika actually has a rich and noble history in many unique cultures before the Nazis appropriated it for evil. Your point is taken, but bad comparison (it's somewhat interesting that primitive people on different continents independently used it as an important symbol)

True. And that's one of reasons Hitler chose it, because of its past history. There are many minor variations of it over history, and even Hitler (remember, he was an art major) tweaked it for Germany's final version.

The Finnish Air Force used it before Nazi Germany. After WWII, they stopped using it.

A U.S. Army unit located out west used it as part of their symbol because they were honoring the local Native American tribe which had used it for centuries because it meant good luck to them. When WWII started, needless to say, the Army unit changed their logo.

Those of you "oldtimers" from the Hockey-L days may remember a photo someone found from an early 1900s Canadian newspaper showing a female hockey team, nicknamed the "Swastikas." I think I still have that photo somewhere. Back then, it was perfectly acceptable to use a nickname and team logo like that. Now, it seems so weird.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Republicans passed a bunch of things knowing they may lose the governor's race to hamper the dems in fixing issues.

It was on my list of great new places to live. Now, I wouldn't move there if you paid me.

[The Rube]

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It's fun to watch brent twist himself into knots trying to defend a racist symbol while still trying to condemn racism.

"You know, the swastika, as we know it now, has come to mean..."

You are a complete and utter moron if you think I'm defending a racist symbol.

[Handyman]

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Republicans passed a bunch of things knowing they may lose the governor's race to hamper the dems in fixing issues.

Right but the NC Supreme Court overruled them.

The Swastika is used in China and Hong still as a symbol of peace.

On a different note it seems lots of Trumpers are comparing the Neo Nazis to BLM. When the recent shooting in Minneapolis happened (White Lady) BLM protested for her and supported her family. Would the Neo Nazis do that? BLM may be d-bags a lot of the time, but no matter how much the Fraudbots and the Racists pretend they are not the same.

[The Rube]

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Right but the NC Supreme Court overruled them.

The Swastika is used in China and Hong still as a symbol of peace.

On a different note it seems lots of Trumpers are comparing the Neo Nazis to BLM. When the recent shooting in Minneapolis happened (White Lady) BLM protested for her and supported her family. Would the Neo Nazis do that? BLM may be d-bags a lot of the time, but no matter how much the Fraudbots and the Racists pretend they are not the same.

BLM and the Neos aren't even close to the same. I can't even begin to see how some would think that.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Can we get rid of Mount Rushmore? Teddy Roosevelt wasn't fond of those darned Indians. This is the precedent we are setting as a nation. Just sayin'.

Thank you, President Trump. You realize President Trump is pulling the same centrist crap you always do, don't you?

[aparch]

Those of you "oldtimers" from the Hockey-L days may remember a photo someone found from an early 1900s Canadian newspaper showing a female hockey team, nicknamed the "Swastikas." I think I still have that photo somewhere. Back then, it was perfectly acceptable to use a nickname and team logo like that. Now, it seems so weird.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Swastikas
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernie_Swastikas
Also a third team in Edmonton.

And prior to it's misappropriation, it was a symbol of luck throughout many cultures, especially Pagan beliefs.

[The Rube]

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Thank you, President Trump. You realize President Trump is pulling the same centrist crap you always do, don't you?

I explained earlier why I think that. If you choose to ignore why I think that, or haven't read my reasons, then that is on you.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Washington: was a traitor against Britain. Slave owner. Pretty darn good general.
RE Lee: was a traitor against USA. Slave owner. Not as good of a general.

Yeah, false equivalency.

I am not FOR keeping the monuments. I am thinking this is a dangerous precedent for future events.

Again, thank you President Trump.

[Kepler]

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Heard today at work: "every single person who was at that protest was wrong. On both sides."

That poison is deep.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Heard today at work: "every single person who was at that protest was wrong. On both sides."

That poison is deep.

Yep. This is the narrative now. Conservatives will all run for that tent if they can for cover.

[joecct]

Heard today at work: "every single person who was at that protest was wrong. On both sides."

That poison is deep.

The antis who are/were peaceful protesters are innocents. The antis with clubs or who wanted to start a violent confrontation are not.

The civil rights movement won because they never attacked when hit with fire hoses and dogs and, yes, when some were murdered. Dr. King realized Gahndi won while Jeff Davis lost.

[mookie1995]

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If you told them Lee urged reconciliation and applied to get his citizenship to the United States back after the war, they wouldn't know what you're talking about because they have no interest in historical facts.

Lee probably would have gotten it if it wasn't for faux news running stories 24/7 that spread lies about him!!!

[Kepler]

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Time to stop being politically correct and just say it. The President of the United States is a racist.

But members of the president’s staff, stunned and disheartened, said they never expected to hear such a voluble articulation of opinions that the president had long expressed in private. National Economic Council Chairman Gary Cohn and Treasury Secretary Steven T. Mnuchin, who are Jewish, stood by uncomfortably as the president exacerbated a controversy that has once again engulfed a White House in disarray.