Page 48 of 51 FirstFirst ... 3839404142434445464748495051 LastLast
Results 941 to 960 of 1003

Thread: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringing?

  1. #941
    Still upright
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    SE Michigan
    Posts
    6,509

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    I have two concerns going forward. How is this new transfer rule going to affect us and what’s the league going to look like in 5 years . Both of them could become issues

  2. #942
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Hockey Dead Zone via New Hampshire via Michigan via Minnesota
    Posts
    118

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Well, two things could happen. First is we lose a good/rising player or two a year who want to play in HE, NCHC, or B1G and/or we lose bench players or guys who don't feel fully utilized. That said, we could see guys want to come to Tech from the bigger schools who want more playing time. IMO, it really depends on the agents and teams that drafted said player. If they like a coaching staff and feel the player is progressing, they won't move them. There could be "bigger" teams (U of Mi) who over recruit and tell a kid to play a year for a LSSU and they will let them know when they (U of Mi) are ready for them.

    I think your LSSU, UAA, UAF, UAB,... will still struggle, teams like Tech, MnSU,... will be fine with a little more player movement year over year. Where it will really sting is when a "money school" go on a rebuilding campaign like Wisconsin recently did and instead of loading up on new recruits, will be trying to recruit from WCHA, AH,... teams.

  3. #943
    Still upright
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    SE Michigan
    Posts
    6,509

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by Lost_Husky View Post
    Well, two things could happen. First is we lose a good/rising player or two a year who want to play in HE, NCHC, or B1G and/or we lose bench players or guys who don't feel fully utilized. That said, we could see guys want to come to Tech from the bigger schools who want more playing time. IMO, it really depends on the agents and teams that drafted said player. If they like a coaching staff and feel the player is progressing, they won't move them. There could be "bigger" teams (U of Mi) who over recruit and tell a kid to play a year for a LSSU and they will let them know when they (U of Mi) are ready for them.

    I think your LSSU, UAA, UAF, UAB,... will still struggle, teams like Tech, MnSU,... will be fine with a little more player movement year over year. Where it will really sting is when a "money school" go on a rebuilding campaign like Wisconsin recently did and instead of loading up on new recruits, will be trying to recruit from WCHA, AH,... teams.
    Bingo! I think it's bad for college hockey in the long run. I see Michigan has their 33ed recruit signed up this week. maybe if they try they can get the entire USHL to commit. that would ensure their winning something. maybe. Wisconsin is just as bad and you are seeing now kids decommitting from wisconsin. I think the whole thing is just like lucia's move to limit older players. it's another thing to give money schools an advantage. Now every smaller school, even like Duluth will have to spend significant resources to keep kids.
    Last edited by manurespreader; 01-25-2018 at 07:52 PM.
    MTU: Three time NCAA champions.

    It never get's easier, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond

  4. #944
    Old Dirty Basterd Shirtless Guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    16,500

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by manurespreader View Post
    Bingo! I think it's bad for college hockey in the long run. I see Michigan has their 33ed recruit signed up this week. maybe if they try they can get the entire USHL to commit. that would ensure their winning something. maybe. Wisconsin is just as bad and you are seeing now kids decommitting from wisconsin. I think the whole thing is just like lucia's move too limit older players. it's another thing to give money schools an advantage. Now every smaller school, even like Duluth will have to spend significant resources to keep kids.
    I disagree with the reason. This is a giant push back on coaches having all the power and $ in college sports. They can leave but players are stuck. Players should have more freedom to leave, but I'm not sure how it will play out. It may end up being bad, but that doesn't make it less valuable in improving things for the players.
    Last edited by Shirtless Guy; 01-25-2018 at 01:58 PM.
    Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits...Posted by Yager on 12/18/09: Remember, remember, the 18th of October (2003).

    Sports Allegiance: NFL: GB MLB: MIL NHL: MIN CB: UW CF: UW CH: MTU FIFA: USA MLS: MIN EPL: Everton

  5. #945
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Hockey Dead Zone via New Hampshire via Michigan via Minnesota
    Posts
    118

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by manurespreader View Post
    Bingo! I think it's bad for college hockey in the long run. I see Michigan has their 33ed recruit signed up this week. maybe if they try they can get the entire USHL to commit. that would ensure their winning something. maybe. Wisconsin is just as bad and you are seeing now kids decommitting from wisconsin. I think the whole thing is just like lucia's move to limit older players. it's another thing to give money schools an advantage. Now every smaller school, even like Duluth will have to spend significant resources to keep kids.
    There is only so much ice time. Right there will keep the college landscape fairly consistent. Even now there are players like Packy who are on team #3 in 3 years. More than likely there will be more guys who are moving around looking for ice time, but I don't see it being more than 20-30 guys across all leagues. It would benefit players like Ford who get pushed out at a bigger school, essentially by no fault of their own, not having to fight for their eligibility and lose a year of game time.

  6. #946
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    410

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by Lost_Husky View Post
    There is only so much ice time. Right there will keep the college landscape fairly consistent. Even now there are players like Packy who are on team #3 in 3 years. More than likely there will be more guys who are moving around looking for ice time, but I don't see it being more than 20-30 guys across all leagues. It would benefit players like Ford who get pushed out at a bigger school, essentially by no fault of their own, not having to fight for their eligibility and lose a year of game time.
    I don't think Ford was pushed out at Wisconsin; I could be wrong, but I thought he left on his own. I believe he played every game for them as a freshman until he left and went back to the USHL. That was a year they weren't doing very well. I don't know his circumstance at that time but it appears he backed out on his commitment not the other way around. If someone knows otherwise please reply in his defense.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

  7. #947
    stuck below the bridge
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Howell/Brighton
    Posts
    690

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi


  8. #948
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Hockey Dead Zone via New Hampshire via Michigan via Minnesota
    Posts
    118

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by rustedblades View Post
    I don't think Ford was pushed out at Wisconsin; I could be wrong, but I thought he left on his own. I believe he played every game for them as a freshman until he left and went back to the USHL. That was a year they weren't doing very well. I don't know his circumstance at that time but it appears he backed out on his commitment not the other way around. If someone knows otherwise please reply in his defense.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
    I was not talking about Ford specifically, that is why I used the word like. It was a recent example of a transfer. There were "recent" changes in the Wisconsin hockey program with an amount of player movement. More transfers will result from the potential new rules.

  9. #949
    Old Dirty Basterd Shirtless Guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    16,500

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    The one thing that is really scary is what happens to players when a coach leaves or gets fired? Taking your time to hire a new coach could mean a lot of your roster is gone before you get hired...
    Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits...Posted by Yager on 12/18/09: Remember, remember, the 18th of October (2003).

    Sports Allegiance: NFL: GB MLB: MIL NHL: MIN CB: UW CF: UW CH: MTU FIFA: USA MLS: MIN EPL: Everton

  10. #950
    Still upright
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    SE Michigan
    Posts
    6,509

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    The one thing that is really scary is what happens to players when a coach leaves or gets fired? Taking your time to hire a new coach could mean a lot of your roster is gone before you get hired...
    Another thing that's going to have an effect is that MJ is going to have to pay the players soon. The judge in Canada ruled that they are pro's and entitled to get paid. the funds set aside are not enough.
    MTU: Three time NCAA champions.

    It never get's easier, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond

  11. #951
    DYKWIA? FadeToBlack&Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    An Airport Near You
    Posts
    28,825

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Those two scenarios - a new coach doing "transfer raids" and the departure of an old coach causing a mass exodus - is why I think there should be a clause to address those two scenarios. Something about the 1-year sit rule still applying for players transferring within one season of a coaching change at either their current, or their new program.
    Michigan Tech: "Working with scraps and guys from places so remote that Houghton seems like a metropolis"

  12. #952
    Old Dirty Basterd Shirtless Guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    16,500

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Those two scenarios - a new coach doing "transfer raids" and the departure of an old coach causing a mass exodus - is why I think there should be a clause to address those two scenarios. Something about the 1-year sit rule still applying for players transferring within one season of a coaching change at either their current, or their new program.
    I think it should really be the other way...There should just be a rule that players are not allowed around a coaching hire. From the point a coach leaves until so many days after a coach is hired or so many days before the new academic year. Players should be given a similar freedom to coaches but they shouldn't be able to make rash decisions before the new coach is hired.
    Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits...Posted by Yager on 12/18/09: Remember, remember, the 18th of October (2003).

    Sports Allegiance: NFL: GB MLB: MIL NHL: MIN CB: UW CF: UW CH: MTU FIFA: USA MLS: MIN EPL: Everton

  13. #953
    Still upright
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    SE Michigan
    Posts
    6,509

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Mason Blacklock in the line up tonight. Gillies out and Baltus still out.
    MTU: Three time NCAA champions.

    It never get's easier, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond

  14. #954
    Blistering Drive
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Maple Bush
    Posts
    462

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by John J. MacInnes View Post
    I'd still dispute the dimensions, but I think they actually lengthened the ice surface in their last round of renovations in 2008 to get it up to standard. It is still, however, the only arena in D-1 (and the only one I can actually think of) with both benches AND the penalty box on the same side of the ice. That gives Ferris a huge glass wall to chip pucks to their hearts content without sending them out of play, furthering their brand of anti-hockey.
    Like watching the Watters and Russell eras at Tech. Now that was anti-hockey.
    "The top three worst things I've seen in hockey? The invention of the trap. The invention of the morning skate. And the invention of the extremely ugly uniform."

    —Brett Hull

  15. #955
    Mighty Techster
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    403

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Dave Ellis claims Tony Stiles played for Canada in both the 1980 and 1988 Olympic Games. I can't find any evidence for 1980.

    Edit: The Michigan Tech 2010–11 Hockey Yearbook only mentions 1988. It also has Bruce Horsch on the 1980 U.S. roster, though of course he didn't go to Lake Placid.
    Last edited by redwing61; 01-26-2018 at 08:17 PM.

  16. #956
    Still upright
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    SE Michigan
    Posts
    6,509

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Well tough loss. I thought we did score that one goal that they disallowed. But more importantly we keep letting in over 3 goals every game. I can't see us winning much if we keep that up. Goaltending, which I thought would resolve itself, definitely has not.We can be better for sure and the guys worked hard. We have to pick ourselves up and play better tomorrow. We might have been able to move up in the standings had we won but I think now we are looking at 5th. Maybe even 6th.
    I hope Donahue is ok, I think that Ferris kid will get additional attention from the league.
    Also I thought the game was not well refereed.
    MTU: Three time NCAA champions.

    It never get's easier, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond

  17. #957
    Inspired by Actual Events
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    da tech
    Posts
    5,864
    Quote Originally Posted by manurespreader View Post
    Goaltending, which I thought would resolve itself, definitely has not..
    Oh, I think it has. The staff just hasn’t faced the facts yet.

    It bothered me when the kid that went head hunting on Donahue was laughing in the penalty box while he was still knocked out. Have some respect. Then when he got the boot he was raising his arms to the crowd like he expected some glory for an embarrassment like that... I understand losing your head for a few seconds but that was all well after the fact when it was clearly a serious injury with possibly permanent damage. He needs to face consequences.

  18. #958
    DYKWIA? FadeToBlack&Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    An Airport Near You
    Posts
    28,825

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Just another Ferris thug, I'm sure he'll get a 1-game slap on the wrist. PK was garbage tonight, and cost us the game.
    Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 01-26-2018 at 09:14 PM.
    Michigan Tech: "Working with scraps and guys from places so remote that Houghton seems like a metropolis"

  19. #959
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    410

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Just another Ferris thug, I'm sure he'll get a 1-game slap on the wrist. PK was garbage tonight, and cost us the game.
    PK?? How bout a goaltender make a stop for a change. I believe if you look at the stats the guys didn't give up many chances again tonight. The chances that they are getting go in. I think the skaters played a heck of a game!
    Tech had a ton of great chances, difference was their goaltender stopped way more than Techs!

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

  20. #960
    DYKWIA? FadeToBlack&Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    An Airport Near You
    Posts
    28,825

    Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

    Quote Originally Posted by rustedblades View Post
    PK?? How bout a goaltender make a stop for a change. I believe if you look at the stats the guys didn't give up many chances again tonight. The chances that they are getting go in. I think the skaters played a heck of a game!
    Tech had a ton of great chances, difference was their goaltender stopped way more than Techs!
    Goaltender is arguably biggest part of PK, so my statement is not inaccurate.
    Michigan Tech: "Working with scraps and guys from places so remote that Houghton seems like a metropolis"

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •