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  • #526
    Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
    The problem is you keep equating objectively good or bad candidate with them winning an election. No Biden isn't necessarily better than Hillary on the main issues but he doesn't have the unprecedented amount of baggage either. Neither did Bernie. It's just not as easy to denigrate those two to the degree they did Hillary. Yeah there's always going to be ammo against any candidate but it'd be a false equivalency to try and equate them to her in that sense.

    And as far as I can tell the polls had Bernie coming out more favorably than her against Trump.
    I think Biden is pretty likable and would have won easily. This isn't intended as a backhanded compliment, but he has a little W in him. He moved left to some degree, at least publicly, with Obama but his position on most issues is pretty much down the center. He would have done a nice job and I think most Americans would have been pretty happy with him.
    Originally posted by BobbyBrady
    Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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    • #527
      Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

      Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
      I think Biden is pretty likable and would have won easily. This isn't intended as a backhanded compliment, but he has a little W in him. He moved left to some degree, at least publicly, with Obama but his position on most issues is pretty much down the center. He would have done a nice job and I think most Americans would have been pretty happy with him.
      The fact that you say this about Biden but absolutely hate Hillary tells me all I need to know

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      • #528
        Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

        When the grand jury sits, will we know who they call in? Will we know when they take the 5th

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        • #529
          Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
          He could've easily won the primary if he just attacked Hillary over her emails or other scandals
          I supported Bernie but I do not think he could have won a Democratic primary that way. The BUT HER EMAILZ morons were over in the other primary voting for Trump.

          Bernie needed to do exactly what Obama did: win over smart, strategic party insiders early and compete with the Clintonistas instead the DNC apparatus to stop it from becoming Hillary's personal print shop. Bernie did not do that: he concentrated on message and idealism, which are great, but you also needs nuts and bolts process and a stick to the eye when the ref isn't looking (or you need the ref). Bernie thought all he had to do was raise buckets of money. That was wrong: he needed to use that money to leverage force inside the Democratic party institutions, win fights, and outplay Hillary. Obama had a killer instinct and his people did that wonderfully. But Bernie had no Rahm Emanuel. He didn't even have a David Axelrod.
          Last edited by Kepler; 08-04-2017, 11:30 AM.
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          • #530
            Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
            The fact that you say this about Biden but absolutely hate Hillary tells me all I need to know
            Do you think there is anything likable about Hillary? Has there ever been any funny busines with the Biden foundation? They might be somewhat similar as far as where they are on the political spectrum, but completely different people.
            Originally posted by BobbyBrady
            Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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            • #531
              Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

              Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
              The fact that you say this about Biden but absolutely hate Hillary tells me all I need to know
              What it tells me is Biden wasn't the nominee. Otherwise Drew would have a dozen GOP talking points about how he is the anti-Christ.
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              • #532
                Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

                Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                Do you think there is anything likable about Hillary?
                She probably won't make it to the LA games?
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                • #533
                  Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

                  Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                  Do you think there is anything likable about Hillary? Has there ever been any funny busines with the Biden foundation? They might be somewhat similar as far as where they are on the political spectrum, but completely different people.
                  I guess my point was more the last part, they're politically very similar but you hate her due to ~reasons~

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  I supported Bernie but I do not think he could have won a Democratic primary that way. The BUT HER EMAILZ morons were over in the other primary voting for Trump.

                  Bernie needed to do exactly what Obama did: win over smart, strategic party insiders early and compete with the Clintonistas instead the DNC apparatus to stop it from becoming Hillary's personal print shop. Bernie did not do that: he concentrated on message and idealism, which are great, but you also needs nuts and bolts process and a stick to the eye when the ref isn't looking (or you need the ref). Bernie thought all he had to do was raise buckets of money. That was wrong: he needed to use that money to leverage force inside the Democratic party institutions, win fights, and outplay Hillary. Obama had a killer instinct and his people did that wonderfully. But Bernie had no Rahm Emanuel. He didn't even have a David Axelrod.
                  Ok maybe not so much attacking her on the emails because that scandal was really ****ing stupid and fabricated but there's plenty of things he could've attacked her on and didn't. And obviously I get why he didn't and shouldn't go that route.
                  Last edited by trixR4kids; 08-04-2017, 11:36 AM.

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                  • #534
                    Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

                    Holy sh-t, Newsweek!

                    Their cover.
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                    • #535
                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Holy sh-t, Newsweek!

                      Their cover.
                      Cool, I used to subscribe to Newsweek back in the day. I honestly thought they went under 10 years ago.
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                      • #536
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                        Newsweek has been good the last few months. This especially nails it. I'm tempted to resubscribe to them just to support them again.
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                        • #537
                          Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          What it tells me is Biden wasn't the nominee. Otherwise Drew would have a dozen GOP talking points about how he is the anti-Christ.
                          Well I backed Obama over Romney. Just because I'm a conservative doesn't make me a shill for the GOP. I would have most likely backed Biden over Trump(unless Biden picked someone really wacky for VP.)
                          Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                          Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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                          • #538
                            Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            I thought it was the
                            Well it is...they are the ones who have the money that is then given to Soros to pay everyone off. You really need to start reading the transcripts of the Bilderberg Conference
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                            • #539
                              Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

                              The photoshopping has already started.

                              Love the HuffPo critique: "should have PAST DUE bills on floor."
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                              • #540
                                Re: POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

                                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                Well it is...they are the ones who have the money that is then given to Soros to pay everyone off. You really need to start reading the transcripts of the Bilderberg Conference
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