POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!

[ericredaxe]

Bernie being a socialist wouldn't have been that big of a deal, most people want some form of single payer anyhow and the dems are moving closer to that. He also could've easily played to peoples' anger who lost their homes due to the financial crisis and actually showed some interest in prosecuting those responsible rather than making their lives easier like Hillary's husband did.

Biden would've easily won, it's hard to imagine the debates matter at all when Trump lost all of them horribly.

Pretty much yeah.

Edit: Thinking back though, Biden did very well in his debates against Palin and Ryan. He has made a few gaffes over the years, but I don't think we should assume he would have lost any of the debates to Trump.

[WeAreNDHockey]

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This is clearly the case. Gore (2000), Kerry (2004), Romney (2012), and Hillary (2016) all destroyed their opponents in the debates. The debates don't mean a thing -- smart people already know the stances and dumb people just blat along to whichever spin they are programmed to believe.

This has been true for a while now. It goes along with the myth of the undecided voter. My belief is the only "undecided" voter is the one who doesn't know if he or she will actually go vote. 90% of the people make up their minds between the r and the d a year before an election, and by the time the conventions roll around 99% know who they are voting for. I don't believe minds change much at all nowadays. The only thing that changes is the motivation to vote.

[Drew S.]

Yeah because everything is a f u c k i n g joke to you. trump tweets, the left gets their panties in a bundle, and mouth breathing apologists like you get a chuckle. I guess all I can hope for is when a progressive democrat is the next president and he or she takes a lengthy vacation, be careful making any snide comments while you're eating a sandwich or you may choke on the lettuce or tomato, Karma's a b i t c h, ya know.

I think the best any of us can do with the current administration is laugh at the absurdity of it. You and others who are upset with Trump should read the comments Moeen Ali made the other day.

[Kepler]

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I think the best any of us can do with the current administration is laugh at the absurdity of it. You and others who are upset with Trump should read the comments Moeen Ali made the other day.

Oh, brother.

[leswp1]

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Have a look at Woburn. It's about 10 miles north of the city and in my opinion is known as a very average town. If anything it is known as a little on the not nice side. I say this because someone from my wife's family is selling a house there and my wife mentioned the listing a month ago or so. The house is about 1200 sq ft, at least 50 years old, only one bathroom and hasn't been updated in a long time yet is listed at $450K. I realize it might not actually sell at that price but you get the idea.

Lewsp post was absolutely bang on in every way. The basic problem is the area as a whole has done an awful job in planning for growth(not a left-right issue.) They take a piece of land, say 20 acres, and instead of building 50 1500 sq ft houses will build six 3500 sq ft houses. There obviously should be some larger houses built, but not every one. It's created a situation where there just aren't many smaller houses and there is obviously a lot of demand for them which increases the prices to crazy levels.

In a lot of ways we have a different issue than NY or SF. In those places there are just tons of people in a small space. For us here I think there is enough space available, it has just been divided in a poor way.

As far as your SIL, you might be surprised. It really depends on the town and how far from the city it is though.

I know I am late but have to chime in. Woburn is no where near normal. It has access not only to 2 major highways but a train hub, bus hub, multiple shopping/grocery places and a number of very stable bigger businesses like USPS sorting ctr etc.

Not only do they build big houses they make no allowances for the students coming into the schools, public safety demands increasing

Nope- 10 miles from a high priced, major metropolitan area, that has a shortage of space does NOT make it average. Not what so ever.

Heck, that's inside the I95 belt.

My SIL is another 30 miles farther from Btown than that.

Deerfield would be closer to average.

Washington DC and New York share the same problem- but other areas don't. Very much don't. So you can't make an extrapolation for the rest of Mass based on a town so close to downtown Boston.

Deerfield? Is the western part of the state supposed to count?

Apparently the jackoffs on Fox are calling Mueller a "criminal."

Gonna be weird to watch 60 million people stripped of their delusional parallel universe at once. Hide* the Kool Aid.

* Discount.

Lets have a pool for what crazy sh1t comes out of the white house/tRump tweets. My first thought- Cue up bizarre tweeting, wild, inappropriate action by President, WH or staff in effort to distract. Odds on there will also be at least 5 mouthpieces, 2 or more of which will be either a Fox host or on Fox telling us why this is a [fake investigation, witch hunt, Meuller is not impartial/is part of the evil conspiring establishment, this is an effort to overturn the results of the election (which by now we should all chant- HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE!!!)] It is so predictable I think there should be some sort of Bingo sheet to see who can hit first. Of course before I could type that Fox was already working.

[Kepler]

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Lets have a pool for what crazy sh1t comes out of the white house/tRump tweets. My first thought- Cue up bizarre tweeting, wild, inappropriate action by President, WH or staff in effort to distract. Odds on there will also be at least 5 mouthpieces, 2 or more of which will be either a Fox host or on Fox telling us why this is a [fake investigation, witch hunt, Meuller is not impartial/is part of the evil conspiring establishment, this is an effort to overturn the results of the election (which by now we should all chant- HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE!!!)] It is so predictable I think there should be some sort of Bingo sheet to see who can hit first. Of course before I could type that Fox was already working.

Already done.

[rufus]

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Mueller impanels grand jury to investigate Russian interference. Why the Hell would he do that when this is a made up story only perpetuated by the fake news media?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but grand juries don't really investigate, do they? They hear the evidence already gathered, and decide whether it's enough to indict or not.

[Drew S.]

I know I am late but have to chime in. Woburn is no where near normal. It has access not only to 2 major highways but a train hub, bus hub, multiple shopping/grocery places and a number of very stable bigger businesses like USPS sorting ctr etc.

Not only do they build big houses they make no allowances for the students coming into the schools, public safety demands increasing

Deerfield? Is the western part of the state supposed to count?

Lets have a pool for what crazy sh1t comes out of the white house/tRump tweets. My first thought- Cue up bizarre tweeting, wild, inappropriate action by President, WH or staff in effort to distract. Odds on there will also be at least 5 mouthpieces, 2 or more of which will be either a Fox host or on Fox telling us why this is a [fake investigation, witch hunt, Meuller is not impartial/is part of the evil conspiring establishment, this is an effort to overturn the results of the election (which by now we should all chant- HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE!!!)] It is so predictable I think there should be some sort of Bingo sheet to see who can hit first. Of course before I could type that Fox was already working.

Lawrence and Lowell have those things as well. It's not a bad town and for some people is in a great location, but it's not Lexington, Weston, etc.

[Kepler]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but grand juries don't really investigate, do they? They hear the evidence already gathered, and decide whether it's enough to indict or not.

You are correct. Wikipedia, font of all truth, says thusly:

Grand jury is a legal body empowered to conduct official proceedings and investigate potential criminal conduct, and determine whether criminal charges should be brought.

I would think (but unofan or our other lawyers can correct) that you impanel the grand jury once you feel you have accumulated enough evidence to proceed to charges.

Here is a discussion of just that question.

Unlike trial juries, grand juries don't weigh in on a defendant's guilt or innocence. Instead, they convene before any charges have been filed in order to determine whether charges, or an indictment, should be filed. Prosecutors decide whether or not to impanel a grand jury, and they usually only do so when serious felony charges are a possibility.

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This is the second grand jury to be impaneled with regard to the Russia investigation. Mueller was brought on as special counsel for the Russia probe by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, and shortly thereafter, he assumed control of a grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia that's investigation former national security advisor Michael Flynn. The most recent grand jury, therefore, is almost certainly not focused on Flynn, given that the first one hasn't yet concluded

[alfablue]

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I think the best any of us can do with the current administration is laugh at the absurdity of it. You and others who are upset with Trump should read the comments Moeen Ali made the other day.

Yes, it's good that we can make a joke of what our president has become.

Really? That's kinda sad.

Thanks for bringing us all down to your level.

[unofan]

This is clearly the case. Gore (2000), Kerry (2004), Romney (2012), and Hillary (2016) all destroyed their opponents in the debates. The debates don't mean a thing -- smart people already know the stances and dumb people just blat along to whichever spin they are programmed to believe.

Uh, Obama won the best of 3 in 2012. Romney won a blowout in round 1, but Obama took rounds 2 and 3.

[ericredaxe]

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Lawrence and Lowell have those things as well. It's not a bad town and for some people is in a great location, but it's not Lexington, Weston, etc.

I would agree that Woburn would be considered a relatively "average" town for someone looking to settle down / start a family etc.

I understand exactly what Drew is saying. And I do think that most people who live around here would consider Woburn to be a pretty "average" town..

You can certainly get a house for cheaper in Mass, but, it will either be so far out of the city that if you work in Boston the commute becomes borderline unrealistic, or it is in a city (as Drew is referencing) that most of us on here would not really want to settle into / send our kids to the schools etc.

[Kepler]

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Uh, Obama won the best of 3 in 2012. Romney won a blowout in round 1, but Obama took rounds 2 and 3.

I don't think so. Obama surprised me that he didn't bring his fastball to those debates. He won on the merits of course because, duh, but he didn't win the grip and grin stupidity that most voters top off at.

[leswp1]

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Already done.

Too general. We need one that has things more specific to the time. Stuff like Meuller is in cahoots with the evil Dems, someone falls on their sword, has a rant like the Mooch, gets fired and goes nuts, S. Huckabee lies... well that should probably be the star in the center. She lies every day. There is the ever present Benghazi!!!, but Hillary and but Obama!!!, tweetts about Russia, tweets about various cabinet members.....

Yes, it's good that we can make a joke of what our president has become.

Really? That's kinda sad.

Thanks for bringing us all down to your level.

Either laugh or sob. so embarassing

[Kepler]

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This guy's ready for Fox.