POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!

[Drew S.]

Then your party should probably stop giving tax cuts to the rich.

Among other changes. Both parties are at fault. We live in the era of refusing to make touch decisions and kick the can down the road.

[jericho]

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So, something else to talk about, Democrats have their first presidential candidate for 2020 in Congressman John Delaney from Maryland.

[The Rube]

Re: POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!

Among other changes. Both parties are at fault. We live in the era of refusing to make touch decisions and kick the can down the road.

We all want improvements to things, yet we don't want to open our pocketbooks (rich or not). Anytime anyone mentions raising taxes, the majority (right or left) scream bloody murder.

[dxmnkd316]

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We all want improvements to things, yet we don't want to open our pocketbooks (rich or not). Anytime anyone mentions raising taxes, the majority (right or left) scream bloody murder.

Citation needed.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

I know, but I think it's a myth that people really hoped Trump would "do more for them." Do less for other people, maybe.

More for the poor whiteys, less for the poor darkies, illegals, and the Muzzie "refugees" they just know are all terrorists. That's what they wanted.

[Drew S.]

So, something else to talk about, Democrats have their first presidential candidate for 2020 in Congressman John Delaney from Maryland.

I think Terry McAuliffe winds up being the nominee.

[Drew S.]

We all want improvements to things, yet we don't want to open our pocketbooks (rich or not). Anytime anyone mentions raising taxes, the majority (right or left) scream bloody murder.

Sad but true. I personally would prefer to pay a dollar now than two dollars down the road and avoid being in debt in the process.

[unofan]

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Both parties are at fault.

Yeah, keep on believing that if it makes you feel better about voting for the party of Brownback and Norquist.

Sad but true. I personally would prefer to pay a dollar now than two dollars down the road and avoid being in debt in the process.

Your acknowledged voting pattern says otherwise.

[Handyman]

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It's just interesting to note. I know he's not going to say anything.

Unless you assume The Mooch is right and he was the leak all along...

[alfablue]

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We all want improvements to things, yet we don't want to open our pocketbooks (rich or not). Anytime anyone mentions raising taxes, the majority (right or left) scream bloody murder.

Uh, no.

It's FAR, FAR, FAR more the right. Most of the left I talk to are willing to pay more taxes. This is clearly an area that the left and right are different- so stop pretending we are anywhere near the same on this subject.

The area that I DON'T want to pay taxes for is "for profit" companies running things that have mostly been not- schools, prisons, garbage, and much of the road maintenance. There are other areas that we don't have to be so incredibly capitalistic. As a system, many of these items will save society money in the long run. But people want government to be so much run like a business- meaning making money- that it's sickening.

I just don't get the idea that having a business mind means you automatically don't waste. There's TONS of waste in business. Probably more than in the government. I see it all the time in my company. There so much more scrutiny in government to prevent that, it's not even funny- to the point that there's a lot of nonsensical policies that seem dumb, but in reality they are CYA policies so that people don't get in trouble.

All government needs to focus on is maximizing the output for the given input.

Enough of that rant. But it's clear to me that this is one massive area that the left and right are very far apart.

[dxmnkd316]

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Conservatives often find it morally repugnant to pay taxes. I have yet to find a liberal who isn't at a minimum open to raising taxes. I know they exist, I just can't think of one off the top of my head.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Zing!

Trump's White House is so terminally ill, I'm surprised Gingrich hasn't tried to divorce it. https://t.co/zcTzurqOOh

— David Slack (@slack2thefuture) July 29, 2017

[geezer]

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Leaving Trump (who is insane) aside, I've heard about some interesting research in evolutionary sociology. Your vote is 50% genetic. A conservative identical twin raised in an adopted liberal family is more likely than not to be conservative in spite of his upbringing. And that tribally speaking, liberals were those who incorporated new tribe members while conservatives kept the tribe safe from takeover. Ideally it's a balancing act.

[burd]

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We all want improvements to things, yet we don't want to open our pocketbooks (rich or not).

That is true, Brent, but two questions.

What has this Republican administration (or the Party itself, for the last 3 election cycles) done to show it wants to improve education, including the natural sciences?

Why is the GOP so determined to protect the 1%ers from paying higher taxes? Given tha trickle-down economics was pretty much disproven under Reagan, who is the real intended beneficiary of that policy?

[MaizeRage]

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Citation needed.

It's the same logic as St. McCain() whining about bombastic loudmouths on both sides of the political spectrum like Rush, Alex Jones, Hannity, Ann Coulter etc.