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    Re: Brown Hockey 2017-2018: The Quest for Prosperity Continues

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdiff77 View Post
    I’m far too tired to give this the nuanced response it deserves, but the problem, IMO, is twofold:

    -Brown’s former president Ruth Simmons raised Brown’s admissions standards to heights unrivaled by any other Ivy, making recruiting an impossible task.

    -Brendan Whittet has, in spite of that, done quite well with recruiting, but hasn’t been able to find a goaltender in years and has also utterly failed to develop any of the talent he has had at his disposal – especially on the defensive side of things, which is supposed to be his specialty.

    The result is a team that at times exhibits a really high talent level and can skate with the better teams it plays, and at other times gets totally overrun by teams that are well-coached and have strong, detailed systems.
    Doesn’t seem that the program has the potential to right itself with Whittet still at the helm.
    Yep, he’s recruited some high end talent over the years ( a fair # making it to pro
    hockey ) but I wonder if those guys would’ve made it no matter what. Probably awkward for Brown because if they fire him it would seem like its just because he can not win consistently— not a good look from the progressive Ivy Towers. I thought long ago that they should fire Grillo, but Whittet might be worse. Grillo had them playing ~ trap/dump & chase, but at least teams had to work hard to beat them. Anyway, they have to do something about this program. At the very least, hire an "associate" head coach to help the situation. Harvard did that a while back for Donato.

    My cousin ( Brown ’09 ) would like to see the program hire a woman head coach( e.g. Meaghan Duggan or some alum high profile women's player like Katie King ) to make it a "signature Brown” hire that would mend fences with admissions, and force the U to institutionally to get behind the hockey program. That might be a bridge too far for the Old Guard, but it sure would be an interesting hire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaRing View Post
    Doesn’t seem that the program has the potential to right itself with Whittet still at the helm.
    Yep, he’s recruited some high end talent over the years ( a fair # making it to pro
    hockey ) but I wonder if those guys would’ve made it no matter what. Probably awkward for Brown because if they fire him it would seem like its just because he can not win consistently— not a good look from the progressive Ivy Towers. I thought long ago that they should fire Grillo, but Whittet might be worse. Grillo had them playing ~ trap/dump & chase, but at least teams had to work hard to beat them. Anyway, they have to do something about this program. At the very least, hire an "associate" head coach to help the situation. Harvard did that a while back for Donato.

    My cousin ( Brown ’09 ) would like to see the program hire a woman head coach( e.g. Meaghan Duggan or some alum high profile women's player like Katie King ) to make it a "signature Brown” hire that would mend fences with admissions, and force the U to institutionally to get behind the hockey program. That might be a bridge too far for the Old Guard, but it sure would be an interesting hire.
    Totally agreed that Whittet is a lost cause. Better to start fresh with a new staff. And, yes; it’s likely that most of the players who have made it to the pros under his watch would have done so regardless of who they played for in college.

    Your latter point is an interesting one. I’m very open to trying literally anything new, since the three coaches Brown has employed in my lifetime have all had losing records and the program hasn’t made the NCAA tournament in 25 years. Get some fresh blood in there, maybe stir the pot a bit with a non-traditional hire like a former Brown women’s player, and see if you can make strides by thinking outside the box.

    I don’t think there’s any cause to worry about the “old guard” since it has all but abandoned Brown hockey already. Could be a good marketing/PR move, at the very least, and drum up some outside interest in the program.

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    Re: Brown Hockey 2017-2018: The Quest for Prosperity Continues

    Brown legend Yann Danis is calling it quits after what seems like 20 years in the pros (it's actually more like 14).

    https://twitter.com/ydanis35/status/962844462215987200

    Yann is the best goaltender in Brown history and he singlehandedly dragged his team to Albany in 2003 and had it on the verge of an NCAA tournament berth in 2004 prior to a late-season collapse. Those were not particularly adept offensive teams, but Danis kept them in just about every single game. He gave ECAC opponents nightmares for three years. Even in defeat, he was often dominant – the 66-save double-overtime effort against Harvard in the 2002 playoffs comes to mind.

    I was young when Danis played at Brown, and he was my favorite athlete (yes, including professional players). I knew he was great when, in his very first game, he made a ridiculous glove save on a point-blank shot from maybe 8 feet away in the slot off a one-time pass from the corner (as is tradition for Brown hockey, there was no one defending the crease ). I was standing above the net and I remember screaming my head off when he made that save. Danis briefly inspired me to switch to playing as a goaltender, though my parents put the kibosh on that pretty quick due to the expense.

    What a great player, and a great representative of Brown!
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