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  • Re: Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    What do you know, the liberals here don't give a crap about actual police brutality. Must be because they can't push racism... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RIUSLQJg-Y
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    • Re: Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

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      • Re: Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

        Chicago.




        Why are the cops' faces blurred and not the 10 yr old?
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        • Re: Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          Chicago.




          Why are the cops' faces blurred and not the 10 yr old?
          You need to ask?

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            • Re: Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

              A small Nebraska county is on the hook for a $28 million dollar judgment after 6 people were wrongly accused and falsely convicted of a murder. A murder the evidence should have told the investigating officers the 6 -- who spent nearly 70 years combined behind bars -- could not have committed.

              Every conservative out there goes on and on about how government wastes money and we don't get a dollar's worth of service out of a dollar spent by or on government. Yet none of them ever seem to complain about the endless amount of money municipalities have been forced to spend after cops have shot and killed unarmed people in violation of their civil rights and locked up innocent people for years when they KNEW they had the wrong person behind bars. The total in just a handful of American cities in just a handful of years in this century is OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.

              It is shocking how poorly run many police departments are, and the resulting harm to our communities is a tragedy. The arrest rate for murders in 50 of America's largest cities is under 50%. According to the FBI's data, fewer than 20% of property crimes result in the arrest of suspects. Keep in mind, these figures refer only to the clearance rate, which accounts for reported crimes where a suspect was arrested or charged. It doesn't mean that someone was actually brought to justice. And as we know, the cops make mistakes all the time, intentionally or out of incompetence, so some of those arrested, prosecuted or even convicted, end up being set free -- with a well deserved financial settlement in hand sometimes -- and the actual guilty person out there is rarely arrested or convicted.

              This kind of incompetence would not be tolerated in most private businesses. And when inner city schools fail to teach the most disadvantaged among our young people, the hue and cry among republicans in other areas of most states is to drastically cut funding for big city public schools and throw that money down the charter school sink hole, or worse yet, find a way to transfer the tax dollars to private schools with neat little accounting tricks like vouchers. We starve our public schools, our public parks and our public roads of the funds they need to function at the same time we give billions of dollars to the victims of police incompetence.

              Who knows though, maybe since those 6 folks in Gage County Nebraska were all white Midwesterners perhaps this will be a catalyst for change. Naaah, I didn't think so either.

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              • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
                A small Nebraska county is on the hook for a $28 million dollar judgment after 6 people were wrongly accused and falsely convicted of a murder. A murder the evidence should have told the investigating officers the 6 -- who spent nearly 70 years combined behind bars -- could not have committed.

                Every conservative out there goes on and on about how government wastes money and we don't get a dollar's worth of service out of a dollar spent by or on government. Yet none of them ever seem to complain about the endless amount of money municipalities have been forced to spend after cops have shot and killed unarmed people in violation of their civil rights and locked up innocent people for years when they KNEW they had the wrong person behind bars. The total in just a handful of American cities in just a handful of years in this century is OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.

                It is shocking how poorly run many police departments are, and the resulting harm to our communities is a tragedy. The arrest rate for murders in 50 of America's largest cities is under 50%. According to the FBI's data, fewer than 20% of property crimes result in the arrest of suspects. Keep in mind, these figures refer only to the clearance rate, which accounts for reported crimes where a suspect was arrested or charged. It doesn't mean that someone was actually brought to justice. And as we know, the cops make mistakes all the time, intentionally or out of incompetence, so some of those arrested, prosecuted or even convicted, end up being set free -- with a well deserved financial settlement in hand sometimes -- and the actual guilty person out there is rarely arrested or convicted.

                This kind of incompetence would not be tolerated in most private businesses. And when inner city schools fail to teach the most disadvantaged among our young people, the hue and cry among republicans in other areas of most states is to drastically cut funding for big city public schools and throw that money down the charter school sink hole, or worse yet, find a way to transfer the tax dollars to private schools with neat little accounting tricks like vouchers. We starve our public schools, our public parks and our public roads of the funds they need to function at the same time we give billions of dollars to the victims of police incompetence.

                Who knows though, maybe since those 6 folks in Gage County Nebraska were all white Midwesterners perhaps this will be a catalyst for change. Naaah, I didn't think so either.
                One of my law school professors spent a class talking about that case, then brought in one of the wrongfully accused the next day. To this day, the investigator believes the 6 are still guilty. The 7th guy whose DNA was found was merely the unindicted co-conspirator.

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                • Re: Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

                  Originally posted by unofan View Post
                  Never underestimate the ability to reject reality to match your predetermined position.
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                  • Re: Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

                    Originally posted by unofan View Post
                    One of my law school professors spent a class talking about that case, then brought in one of the wrongfully accused the next day. To this day, the investigator believes the 6 are still guilty. The 7th guy whose DNA was found was merely the unindicted co-conspirator.

                    Never underestimate the ability to reject reality to match your predetermined position.
                    People like that used to be, happily, a minority. Now both sides of the political spectrum are overrun with people suffering from intense confirmation bias. My personal belief is one side of that aisle suffers from this far more than the other, but I'll give the false equivalency brigade a small break when they pull out the "both sides are bad" argument. In this case there is at least some truth to it.

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                    • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
                      People like that used to be, happily, a minority. Now both sides of the political spectrum are overrun with people suffering from intense confirmation bias. My personal belief is one side of that aisle suffers from this far more than the other, but I'll give the false equivalency brigade a small break when they pull out the "both sides are bad" argument. In this case there is at least some truth to it.
                      This wasn't political. It was a gung ho investigator working on what was in all likelihood the biggest case of his career and he wasn't going to ever admit he got it wrong. The problem is he had that mindset from the git go. He thought it was one person, then his alibi made it two people, then 4, then 5, then 6 (and now, ostensibly, 7).

                      The original confession was bull****. He manipulated a below average intelligence, emotionally impaired person to agree to anything he said. The rest of the people got railroaded.

                      The one who spoke to our class was Thomas Winslow. Without knowing what he was like before spending years in prison wrongfully, he definitely came across as someone at least partially defeated. Extremely soft spoken, and it just sounded like he had lost something.

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                        There are cops who are very narrow-minded. They think they have the solution, and it makes them look at each thing that supports their bias, and ignoring other evidence. It doesn't matter what political, racial, whatever slant the cop holds. It only matters if the "clues" support the cop's decision.

                        For argument's sake, say the cop is a MAGA herpaderp guy (hush in the peanut gallery ). He thinks Joe A, who is a member of a white nationalist party, voted Trump, is homophobic, is God/football/family (in that order), did the illegal act. Meanwhile, Ru Paul is sitting there with blood on his/her hands, quite literally, and that cop will stick with this assumption.

                        Yes, going overboard posting the above; it's to prove a point about the mindset of some people. You will not convince them that they are wrong. Their minds are made up, period.
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                        • Re: Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

                          Originally posted by unofan View Post
                          This wasn't political. It was a gung ho investigator working on what was in all likelihood the biggest case of his career and he wasn't going to ever admit he got it wrong. The problem is he had that mindset from the git go. He thought it was one person, then his alibi made it two people, then 4, then 5, then 6 (and now, ostensibly, 7).

                          The original confession was bull****. He manipulated a below average intelligence, emotionally impaired person to agree to anything he said. The rest of the people got railroaded.
                          I don't know if one of the six still feels the way she did, but according to this article she still claims they were involved. Sad.

                          The one who spoke to our class was Thomas Winslow. Without knowing what he was like before spending years in prison wrongfully, he definitely came across as someone at least partially defeated. Extremely soft spoken, and it just sounded like he had lost something.
                          I can imagine. I feel a little defeated sometimes when I feel trapped by the normal things we all face when our lives get a little tough. He was actually trapped behind bars for years wrongfully and against his wishes. That could make the strongest person feel defeated.

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                              Originally posted by Handyman View Post

                              Just look at that place, too. This is America.

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