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  • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

    Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    Are some of you still confused as to why there is some criticism of #9's propensity for glaring turnovers?
    For those who didn't catch it this morning's StarTribune had a nice interview with Syd.

    Sydney Baldwin leading Gophers' young group of defensemen
    http://www.startribune.com/sydney-ba...men/459985093/
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    • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

      Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
      Are some of you still confused as to why there is some criticism of #9's propensity for glaring turnovers?
      I'm not confused as to why. The issue has been there for at least two years now, ever since #9 quit playing primarily with #2, and it doesn't look likely to change. They're our players, and at a certain point, we have to take the bad with the good. I think J.J. is as good a coach as there is in the game, and if he can't get her to quit turning it over in bad spots, I'm not sure that anything we say here will make much of a difference.

      What do we think of the fans thus far this season? Many of them have been missing, and those who do show up mostly sit there like lumps waiting silently for a goal. Maybe they are too busy lamenting their team's latest turnover on some message board to do any cheering. It might be why the team plays better on the road. The only time they swept at home was when the youth teams were there making noise.

      I don't want us to spend this season, which is bound to be challenging with the holes in the roster, mostly complaining about the team, and then return to "We're number 1," when the good times return.
      "... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
      And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling

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      • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

        Originally posted by ARM View Post
        I'm not confused as to why. The issue has been there for at least two years now, ever since #9 quit playing primarily with #2, and it doesn't look likely to change. They're our players, and at a certain point, we have to take the bad with the good. I think J.J. is as good a coach as there is in the game, and if he can't get her to quit turning it over in bad spots, I'm not sure that anything we say here will make much of a difference.

        What do we think of the fans thus far this season? Many of them have been missing, and those who do show up mostly sit there like lumps waiting silently for a goal. Maybe they are too busy lamenting their team's latest turnover on some message board to do any cheering. It might be why the team plays better on the road. The only time they swept at home was when the youth teams were there making noise.

        I don't want us to spend this season, which is bound to be challenging with the holes in the roster, mostly complaining about the team, and then return to "We're number 1," when the good times return.
        Maybe I am missing it but from where I sit in the cheap seats I hear cheering, even when goals are not happening, and I have not heard an unusual amount of whining this year compared to the last decade. Frost mentioned people getting off the bandwagon during an interview on the men's broadcast but I am just not catching that either. Early, all the people I talk to or hear talking knew this season was going to be a challenge and nothing has changed that opinion. I still hear a lot of positive comments and good thoughts and I don't hear anyone jumping ship.

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        • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

          Originally posted by ARM View Post
          I'm not confused as to why. The issue has been there for at least two years now, ever since #9 quit playing primarily with #2, and it doesn't look likely to change. ...

          I don't want us to spend this season, which is bound to be challenging with the holes in the roster, mostly complaining about the team, and then return to "We're number 1," when the good times return.
          maybe you should replay last years semi final and watch #2 get stripped of the puck as she skates out of the zone and the Clarkson player fires it into the net, I believe it was the winning goal

          I agree that the D looked like a Chineze fire drill the first couple weekends, and were as effective, what did people expect when there are two freshmen, and a sophomore who didn't play much? it wasn't just the blueliners .... IMO they are playing much better now, but mistakes are going to happen, and *gasp* sometimes an opposing player is going to make a good play.

          Really, there has been a drop off in fans since the Streak ended. I was VERY surprised there wasn't an increase after 2015, I guess it shows that there is a limit to how many sporting events people will go to. And if given a choice to drag your kids down to Ridder with the way people drive there, and find parking, ... I'm sure some people decide to stay home or maybe go to their HS game.

          I am thankful the coaches have stuck with it and kept Skarzynski at F, it would have been easy to return her to D. She adds energy and more importantly scoring which was sorely missed last year. 6 assists this weekend, as long as Robinson gets healthy the Gopher D will be fine, good enough to make the FF and possibly win it.
          Last edited by pokechecker; 11-27-2017, 07:38 AM.

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          • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

            Originally posted by ARM View Post
            I'm not confused as to why. The issue has been there for at least two years now, ever since #9 quit playing primarily with #2, and it doesn't look likely to change. They're our players, and at a certain point, we have to take the bad with the good. I think J.J. is as good a coach as there is in the game, and if he can't get her to quit turning it over in bad spots, I'm not sure that anything we say here will make much of a difference.
            I know you're not and the question really wasn't intended for you.

            Originally posted by ARM View Post
            What do we think of the fans thus far this season? Many of them have been missing, and those who do show up mostly sit there like lumps waiting silently for a goal. Maybe they are too busy lamenting their team's latest turnover on some message board to do any cheering. It might be why the team plays better on the road. The only time they swept at home was when the youth teams were there making noise.
            So lack of cheering and complaining on a message board is the reason why the Gophers have a losing record at home? Who knew?
            You have to admit that #9 doesn't do turnovers half baked...She goes all out and makes them quite spectacular which, to me, is worth commenting on.

            Originally posted by ARM View Post
            I don't want us to spend this season, which is bound to be challenging with the holes in the roster, mostly complaining about the team, and then return to "We're number 1," when the good times return.
            Isn't this specifically a Minnesota sports fan vibe and in general, for most sports fans, how they roll as front runners?
            At the outset, we could hang with the dude...

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            • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

              Originally posted by ne7minder View Post
              Maybe I am missing it but from where I sit in the cheap seats I hear cheering, even when goals are not happening, and I have not heard an unusual amount of whining this year compared to the last decade. Frost mentioned people getting off the bandwagon during an interview on the men's broadcast but I am just not catching that either. Early, all the people I talk to or hear talking knew this season was going to be a challenge and nothing has changed that opinion. I still hear a lot of positive comments and good thoughts and I don't hear anyone jumping ship.
              The crowds this year are embarrassing! The place is on average less than a 1/3 full for most games regardless of what they announce. At the Saturday SCSU game, I think the crew that Dodge County brought up to watch Robinson was 40% of the fans! Both the Men & the Women Gopher programs need to figure it out!

              Does anyone have the video of Frost's Bandwagon comments? Would love to here it!

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              • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                Last year crowds started small but built to where they were strong at the end. We averaged over 2000 for Ohio State in January and the season finished with back to back series against UND (ave 2600) and Wisconsin (ave 3300).

                This year we didn't quite hit a 2k average against Wisconsin. and it's a blow losing UND as they had become our 2nd best drawing opponent. Also, the team being down a little and UND dropping hockey is a double whammy PR-wise. After the first of the year the only home series are Vermont in early Jan and Mankato in late January. Kind of a disaster from a building crowds perspective. I wouldn't be surprised if Frost's bandwagon comment was a bit of a pre-emptive take the pressure off statement. They are giving it the college try this weekend with free entrance to the Saturday game with a Teddy Bear!

                And I thought the St Cloud Saturday was good for a SCSU game even on top of Dodge County. That promotion was pretty successful. To me all four corners of General Admission seats were good. I thought it was a very fun atmosphere!

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                • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                  Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
                  So lack of cheering and complaining on a message board is the reason why the Gophers have a losing record at home? Who knew?
                  It's mostly TIC, but with the caveat that if complaining about the players is fair game, then the fans leave themselves open to criticism. About all that I can offer in their defense is that at least they don't all start filing toward the exit with 10 minutes left in a close game like most Minnesota crowds do.
                  "... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
                  And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling

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                  • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                    Originally posted by GopherBadger View Post
                    The crowds this year are embarrassing! The place is on average less than a 1/3 full for most games regardless of what they announce. At the Saturday SCSU game, I think the crew that Dodge County brought up to watch Robinson was 40% of the fans! Both the Men & the Women Gopher programs need to figure it out!

                    Does anyone have the video of Frost's Bandwagon comments? Would love to here it!
                    Try listening to the between period interview in the mens game from weekend before this.
                    OTOH you are suggesting that fans knew this was going to be a non-championship year and decided not to come to games? Attendance has never been what this team deserves & the weak opponents never draw, I have not seen this year as different

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                    • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                      Originally posted by ARM View Post
                      About all that I can offer in their defense is that at least they don't all start filing toward the exit with 10 minutes left in a close game like most Minnesota crowds do.
                      That's so they can beat the traffic to get home quicker and post their negative comments on the game, dontchaknow.
                      Last edited by FiveHoleFrenzy; 11-27-2017, 04:41 PM.
                      At the outset, we could hang with the dude...

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                      • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                        Originally posted by pokechecker View Post
                        maybe you should replay last years semi final and watch #2 get stripped of the puck as she skates out of the zone and the Clarkson player fires it into the net, I believe it was the winning goal
                        On Clarkson's winning goal, Stecklein does try to skate it out and gets stripped along the wall, but the puck goes to Schipper, who throws a pass to Wolfe in the slot that shorthops her and Bannon pounced on it. On that goal, four Gophers could have done something differently and a goal may not have resulted, but IMO, nobody singlehandedly blew it:
                        http://www.ncaa.com/video/icehockey-...emifinal-recap
                        "... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
                        And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling

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                        • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                          Originally posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
                          That's so they can beat the traffic to get home quicker and post their negative comments on the game, dontchaknow.
                          Years ago at the men's games the whole student section used to get on those leaving a few minutes early, all yelling, "BEAT the TRAF-fic, BEAT the TRAF-fic". For some reason that one went by the wayside and you don't hear it anymore.

                          But speaking of traffic, Friday night parking is going to be a little crazy with both hockey teams and the volleyball team all in action.
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                          • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                            Originally posted by D2D View Post
                            Years ago at the men's games the whole student section used to get on those leaving a few minutes early, all yelling, "BEAT the TRAF-fic, BEAT the TRAF-fic". For some reason that one went by the wayside and you don't hear it anymore.
                            probably because the students themselves stopped showing up and started leaving early

                            Originally posted by ARM View Post
                            On Clarkson's winning goal, Stecklein does try to skate it out and gets stripped along the wall, but the puck goes to Schipper, who throws a pass to Wolfe in the slot that shorthops her and Bannon pounced on it. On that goal, four Gophers could have done something differently and a goal may not have resulted, but IMO, nobody singlehandedly blew it:
                            http://www.ncaa.com/video/icehockey-...emifinal-recap
                            my only point in even bringing it up is that every player gets burned, it happens to the best of them, I'm sure not going to blame #2 or let it color my opinion of her as a player
                            IMO, I want the puck on the stick of the best player, if she gets beat, she gets beat, and the opposing team has beaten your best and deserves whatever follows.
                            if you girls want to castigate #9 that's your right, you paid the 5 or ten bucks and are entitled to your opinion.

                            Originally posted by GopherBadger View Post
                            The crowds this year are embarrassing!
                            the crowds last year were embarrassing
                            after 2 championships and 4 in the last five years and that's the interest?
                            State of Hockey ROFL

                            really though, I think it points to the saturation point, there are just so many fans and so much time, pro fans are gonna go watch the Wild, some fan will say to heck with going to Minneapolis which is trying to rid the city of cars, and just go to their HS game. There are a lot good hockey games going on at any given time, you only have time to go to some of them. If somebody thinks women's pro hockey can make it in MN, it is there money and their right to with it whatever they want. At least they aren't going to a casino and throwing it down that hole.
                            Last edited by pokechecker; 11-28-2017, 07:29 AM.

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                            • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                              Gopher recruit and Miss Hockey candidate Taylor Heise is off to a great start in her senior year at Red Wing.

                              http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/news...1?referrer_id=
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                              • Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

                                Originally posted by D2D View Post
                                Gopher recruit and Miss Hockey candidate Taylor Heise is off to a great start in her senior year at Red Wing.

                                http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/news...1?referrer_id=
                                Referenced in the article (thanks for sharing it, BTW) is another article which talks more in general about the start of the season for the top teams and players. Mentioned is a Jan 20 matchup between Blake and Edina and with Blake moving up to class 2A and being placed in section 6, it will likely be a preview of the section final. That is a game I'll definitely attempt to be at.
                                At the outset, we could hang with the dude...

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