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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    Yes, and in addition to those "all four" who played at the U there was the oldest sibling, Shannon, who played and excelled at Ohio State. Is there any other family that had as many as five siblings play D1 hockey?
    Not that I ever heard. The Reilly's certainly made history at the U though, as the article below points out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shelfit View Post
    Have the Gophers ever in their history had a period of hockey where they only got one shot on goal?! Wow!
    Not that I can remember. If some team did hold the Gophers to just 1 shot in a period before this game my guess is that it probably was the Badgers. The Badgers held the Gopher's shots down (under 20) in 4 of the 6 games this year including just 2 shots in the 2nd period of the first game in Madison and a total of just 15 for the entire game.

    5 wins in 6 games with the Gophs this year is pretty remarkable, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shelfit View Post
    Have the Gophers ever in their history had a period of hockey where they only got one shot on goal?! Wow!
    The answer is at least twice before. On 1/12/07 at Ridder the Buckeyes held the Gophers to 1 shot on goal in the 3rd period of their 7-1 shellacking of the home team. I had thought that if it had happened it probably was in the 2007 season.

    And on 12/8/01 Team USA led the Gophers 68 to 8 (5-2-1) in shots on goal, but only won 6-0 as opposed to 16-0 on the previous day of infamy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    Yes, and in addition to those "all four" who played at the U there was the oldest sibling, Shannon, who played and excelled at Ohio State. Is there any other family that had as many as five siblings play D1 hockey?
    Lamoureux?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    Yes, and in addition to those "all four" who played at the U there was the oldest sibling, Shannon, who played and excelled at Ohio State. Is there any other family that had as many as five siblings play D1 hockey?
    Not five siblings, but the Millers at Michigan State have had a nice run

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertearle View Post
    Lamoureux?
    I know at least 3 (the twins & a goalie brother) but was there another? I admit to paying little attention to the mens game & less to UND so I think there was a 4th brother but am not sure. I remember dad playing for those who cannot be named.

    Speaking of ancestors. Williamson's grandfather played at MN (with Herb) and her father played at the U also. There are several others who had a dad play for MN. I seem to remember players following dads to their ol alma mater around the league. Anyone want to contribute to a list here? (yes, I am trying to change the subject from yesterdays tutorial).

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    Some number things that make you go hmmm....

    #10, as captain, had more penalties (16) than goals (9)...(as did a senior forward who was the 5th leading scorer and mentioned previously).

    79 goals against for the season...

    38 points for the leading scorer...

    #9 as WCHA player of the year...No words for that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ne7minder View Post
    I know at least 3 (the twins & a goalie brother) but was there another? I admit to paying little attention to the mens game & less to UND so I think there was a 4th brother but am not sure. I remember dad playing for those who cannot be named.

    Speaking of ancestors. Williamson's grandfather played at MN (with Herb) and her father played at the U also. There are several others who had a dad play for MN. I seem to remember players following dads to their ol alma mater around the league. Anyone want to contribute to a list here? (yes, I am trying to change the subject from yesterdays tutorial).
    Six, I think. The twins, Mario, Jean-Philippe, Jacques and Pierre-Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluffrinkrat View Post
    Six, I think. The twins, Mario, Jean-Philippe, Jacques and Pierre-Paul.
    Did some googling and all but Pierre-Paul did play D1 hockey, so 5 which ties the Reilly's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    Did some googling and all but Pierre-Paul did play D1 hockey, so 5 which ties the Reilly's.
    So, I win the prize? :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    I don't want to dwell on it, but this game reminded me of the 8-2 shellacking they took in Madison last season. We were never really in it and Wisconsin was in total control from the beginning.
    I thought we came out of the box OK. I had some hope through the first few minutes, but once we made that silly turnover that led to the first goal I thought we turned into the team we were all season instead of the team that played last week.

    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    Some number things that make you go hmmm....

    #10, as captain, had more penalties (16) than goals (9)...(as did a senior forward who was the 5th leading scorer and mentioned previously).

    79 goals against for the season...

    38 points for the leading scorer...

    #9 as WCHA player of the year...No words for that...
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    The Williamson/Skarzynski/Agnew line was decent today. Emily Brown had a pretty good game; I'm not sure who should have been covering Roque on Wisconsin's second goal, but the whole team has been leaving opponents uncovered on the off wing for two months. And, despite giving up four goals, Sydney Peters played pretty well.

    Beyond that, bleh. Reilly's penalty at the end was totally inappropriate, from a player that has often left me with the impression of having an attitude problem. Today was a sour end to a season that was a mild disappointment.

    I feel pretty confident about next year, but they really need to work on their passing, both the decision making and the execution.
    I thought Grace made a few appearances yesterday as well.

    This year's successes in my eyes:
    Taylor Williamson at end of the year
    Freshmen
    Sidney Peters


    Another number for Frenzy's list:
    ZERO for SOG in the third yesterday. I know it really was one but that one just dribbled in from around the blue line and barely made it to the goal

    Totally agree with Eeyore about the passing.
    And I'm in favor of covering our opponents in the defensive zone!

    This season was kind of a bummer for me.
    Except the Final Face-off was very, very fun....something for the players to hang their hat on....and I'm WAY glad they get to hang a banner!

    Really hoping to see a return to form for GWH next year.

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    Really hoping to see a return to form for GWH next year.
    There is a lot to look "forward" to. Somewhat concerned about swapping Ostertag for #9 from the aspect of experience. But hoping for the "less is more" thing from doing less gifting scoring opportunities to the other team. Wish they were bringing in one more defensemen besides Ostertag and Hengler.

    It should be Gulstene's show at goaltender next year but I'm hoping for an overall better team approach to defense that brings down the number of goals against by quite a bit from this year.

    Also, I know they can improve on the special teams numbers that they put up this year with the Power Play at 19.8% and the penalty kill at 85.4%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    There is a lot to look "forward" to.
    Hopefully, the pieces fall into place better than they did this year. I can remember seasons where the team seemed very deep (1998-99, 2000-01, 2008-09), but the overall product didn't gel as well as it might have.

    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    It should be Gulstene's show at goaltender next year but I'm hoping for an overall better team approach to defense that brings down the number of goals against by quite a bit from this year.
    I thought that the backpressure, which was absent for much of the year, came around late. It couldn't do much on Saturday, as the turnovers happened too close to our own net.

    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    Also, I know they can improve on the special teams numbers that they put up this year with the Power Play at 19.8% and the penalty kill at 85.4%.
    PP was good early, and then tailed off into a long drought. We didn't have the type of distributors we usually do. The PK was good in the middle of the season, but it seemed vulnerable any time the opponent was able to set up later in the year.

    I know Wisconsin (Pankowski, Clark, Shirley), BC (Keller, Flanagan, Barnes), and UMD (Rooney, Rooney, and more Rooney) are anticipating what they get back next year. But I wouldn't trade (Pannek, Potomak, Potomak) for any of those other options, from either a competitive or an entertainment aspect.

    Beyond the defensive breakdowns, of which there were simply too many, I thought that this team's biggest issue was the passing. That played a big role in the defensive shortcomings, both by the turnovers that resulted, and the amount of time that we had to play without the puck. Part of the passing issue is that not a lot of chemistry developed. Wente's line had it some days, but it disappeared at times. Skarzynski's line was likely the most consistent down the stretch in terms of everyone being on the same page. It just never happened for Piazza's unit. Someone like Woken could benefit from skating with someone whose game complements hers. Some people also need to improve their ability to catch a pass, as too many bounced off sticks or went by untouched.

    While I'm sure a SP/KP/AP line would be dynamite, I don't know that we can afford it. Williamson being able to play definitely changes the options. She'll at least be another veteran presence. There were rumors of Agnew moving on, but I'm not sure that the poster really knew, because at that time of year, BC wouldn't have been able to talk to her at all. I could see it either way. New forwards are going to have to figure things out quickly next year, or they could wind up getting left out of the mix. It is hard to improve faster than those with whom you're competing for shifts if you don't even get to dress.

    As far as another D candidate, between Skarzynski, and hopefully, a healthier Robinson, I think that they'll be okay on the blue line. With the experience gained by the three primary returning options, I expect that it will be better than this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    There is a lot to look "forward" to.
    That's for sure. Can't wait for the 3 super talented P's to be back in the pod at Ridder and our newest Ms. Hockey, too. The other issues you mentioned are all big question marks for me as well. But, I have no doubt next year's team is going to score a lot of goals. Question is, will it be enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluffrinkrat View Post
    That's for sure. Can't wait for the 3 super talented P's to be on the ice at Ridder and our newest Ms. Hockey, too. The other issues you mentioned are all big question marks for me as well. But, I have no doubt next year's team is going to score a lot of goals. Question is, will it be enough?
    I'm really looking forward to next season as well. I agree both with your observation ("I have no doubt next year's team is going to score a lot of goals") and what ARM opines above ("I think that they'll be okay on the blue line. With the experience gained by the three primary returning options, I expect that it will be better than this year.").

    That leaves the goalie position as the team's biggest question mark. You hate to put too much pressure on any one player, but as we all know, goaltending is huge, and pressure comes with the territory. Much will be riding on Alex Gulstene's shoulders. How well the team defends in front of her by cutting down on turnovers and limiting prime scoring chances will be critically important in determining how successful she can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    Hopefully, the pieces fall into place better than they did this year. I can remember seasons where the team seemed very deep (1998-99, 2000-01, 2008-09), but the overall product didn't gel as well as it might have.
    I appreciate your entire analysis but wanted to highlight that part right there. Hockey championships are not won by the best players, they are won by the best teams. If you are recruiting kids at 15-16 you really have no clue how they will fit in let alone develop.

    We were talking with Badger fans in the parking lot before the game Saturday & I told them we can never be certain of the outcome because there were years I thought One team had more talent but lost to the other. That team thing is the reason.

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    I'm really looking forward to next season as well. I agree both with your observation ("I have no doubt next year's team is going to score a lot of goals") and what ARM opines above ("I think that they'll be okay on the blue line. With the experience gained by the three primary returning options, I expect that it will be better than this year.").

    That leaves the goalie position as the team's biggest question mark. You hate to put too much pressure on any one player, but as we all know, goaltending is huge, and pressure comes with the territory. Much will be riding on Alex Gulstene's shoulders. How well the team defends in front of her by cutting down on turnovers and limiting prime scoring chances will be critically important in determining how successful she can be.
    I just hope we have someone to replace Baldwin's scoring on the blue line next year. Ostertag? I know nothing about her other than her name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluffrinkrat View Post
    I just hope we have someone to replace Baldwin's scoring on the blue line next year. Ostertag? I know nothing about her other than her name.
    Olivia Knowles can step up into the scoring role vacated by #9...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    Olivia Knowles can step up into the scoring role vacated by #9...
    I agree. Marshall and Robinson are others who I think are more inclined to rush the puck than Ostertag. Hengler can pass and shoot, but we'll have to see how she adjusts to the speed of the game.
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    The past strength of Ostertag's game has been strong consistent defensive play at both ends and quick passing decision making. She is fast and instinctive enough for timely deep pinches on offensive end and covering for D partner in a rush. She knows her job and rarely makes mistakes as well as takes very few penalties. She does shoot the puck well from blue line and drops into open ice for scoring chances when puck in low but rarely rushes puck up ice. She has been a pass 1st player. It will be interesting to see if she can continue her past success at the D1 level.

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