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    Quote Originally Posted by EastFan1 View Post
    ?? The WCHA is using crowdsourcing to cover costs. If Minnesota and Wisconsin left, the remaining programs are in trouble.
    Yes they would be in trouble, but I hope they would find a way to survive. Could reorganize under a league with more modest membership fees, play more games against Lindenwood, play non conference games against Wisc and Minnesota, and appeal to the 25ish other teams in the NCAA to travel west. If Notre Dame ever added a team, thatís drivable.

    Itís an odd spot to be in, you want the sport to grow but not at the expense of others. Iím not advocating for a big ten, but do want the sport to grow, and just want whatís best for it overall. Who knows what that is.

    Interesting to hear others say they donít think it will happen anytime soon. I understand why the entire state of Michigan wouldnít add hockey right now, but still wonder if Notre Dame might put something together. I take Eeyoreís word that the money from tv rights is going to go down, but at the same time I look at things like the athleteís village that just opened at Minnesota, and it seems like there is money at the big schools (probably from boosters, but still).

    Further, you look at small schools that have very respectable programs on presumably a much smaller budget and itís hard to believe a big school is never going to come up with a similar amount of money and start a program of their own, especially if they have a rink, menís hockey and womenís club team already.

    Anyway, a bridge to cross another day I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindsay View Post

    Interesting to hear others say they donít think it will happen anytime soon. I understand why the entire state of Michigan wouldnít add hockey right now, but still wonder if Notre Dame might put something together. I take Eeyoreís word that the money from tv rights is going to go down, but at the same time I look at things like the athleteís village that just opened at Minnesota, and it seems like there is money at the big schools (probably from boosters, but still).

    Further, you look at small schools that have very respectable programs on presumably a much smaller budget and itís hard to believe a big school is never going to come up with a similar amount of money and start a program of their own, especially if they have a rink, menís hockey and womenís club team already.

    Anyway, a bridge to cross another day I guess.
    one of the few things eeyore is correct about, but then Blackbeard and myself said this a year ago

    look at it this way, if schools like Clarkson and Mercyhurst didn't have hockey, you'd never have heard of them. Clarkson isn't going to win a national championship in women's hoops or men's football

    the athletes village at U of MN has had a hard time getting funding since it depends on donations, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a Big Teen school to add women's hockey
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokechecker View Post
    one of the few things eeyore is correct about, but then Blackbeard and myself said this a year ago

    look at it this way, if schools like Clarkson and Mercyhurst didn't have hockey, you'd never have heard of them. Clarkson isn't going to win a national championship in women's hoops or men's football

    the athletes village at U of MN has had a hard time getting funding since it depends on donations, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a Big Teen school to add women's hockey
    Haha, ok I wonít hold my breath. I will enjoy the current structures and hope the sport continues to grow in other ways.

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    Haha, ok I wonít hold my breath. I will enjoy the current structures and hope the sport continues to grow in other ways.
    I'd agree that starting up a BTHC on the women's side would be way too costly to work. I mean, UMn got up to #5 in the PWR, and still had to play the team that was #1 the entire season until the day we beat them for the first time in 5 games? And that was because of costs. So if the sport can't afford to have teams travel out of their regions to keep things more fair the one and only weekend it could help and really counts more than any other games basically, then there is no way it could afford to travel every weekend.


    No the only way Women's hockey will be able to afford to grow is if schools that need to add a women's program so that they can keep or add a mens program have the ability to start up women's hockey and are within driving distance to schools already playing. So maybe a Miami of Ohio for example? UND coming back alive? And honestly at this point, I just don't see the women's game expanding much more in the near future and may need the men's game to expand more first. The men's game can expand because the NHL is expanding and spreading out into areas of the country outside of the Midwest and East Coast and because the NHL feels it can benefit by helping chk to expand and because rich alums are more likely to pony up the cash needed to make it happen. Guess we need some billionaires to become women's hockey fans. But if the men's game expands, some schools may need to add a woman's team as well in order to keep right with Title IX?

    The men's game also may expand because kids giving up on football won't always choose bb or wrestling so some will choose hockey. There is no women's sport struggling, in fact women's sports were growing for awhile there and so women's hockey had to compete with other sports. Maybe if sex scandals involving Gymnastics coaches keep popping up maybe there will be a lot of young girls not going the route of gymnastics? That is something I could see happening. A lot harder for a hockey coach to get creepy with a female athlete when she's wearing all of her pads and equipment compared to what Gymnasts wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredsDeadFriend View Post
    I'd agree that starting up a BTHC on the women's side would be way too costly to work. I mean, UMn got up to #5 in the PWR, and still had to play the team that was #1 the entire season until the day we beat them for the first time in 5 games? And that was because of costs. So if the sport can't afford to have teams travel out of their regions to keep things more fair the one and only weekend it could help and really counts more than any other games basically, then there is no way it could afford to travel every weekend.


    No the only way Women's hockey will be able to afford to grow is if schools that need to add a women's program so that they can keep or add a mens program have the ability to start up women's hockey and are within driving distance to schools already playing. So maybe a Miami of Ohio for example? UND coming back alive? And honestly at this point, I just don't see the women's game expanding much more in the near future and may need the men's game to expand more first. The men's game can expand because the NHL is expanding and spreading out into areas of the country outside of the Midwest and East Coast and because the NHL feels it can benefit by helping chk to expand and because rich alums are more likely to pony up the cash needed to make it happen. Guess we need some billionaires to become women's hockey fans. But if the men's game expands, some schools may need to add a woman's team as well in order to keep right with Title IX?

    The men's game also may expand because kids giving up on football won't always choose bb or wrestling so some will choose hockey. There is no women's sport struggling, in fact women's sports were growing for awhile there and so women's hockey had to compete with other sports. Maybe if sex scandals involving Gymnastics coaches keep popping up maybe there will be a lot of young girls not going the route of gymnastics? That is something I could see happening. A lot harder for a hockey coach to get creepy with a female athlete when she's wearing all of her pads and equipment compared to what Gymnasts wear.
    A thought on hockey expansion: The USAHA national high school championships were held in Plymouth MN last week. The Florida State HS champions played in the tourney. I was not able to find the total number of schools with a team but there are 18 - 18! - in the Tampa area alone. I wouldn't have been surprised if that was the state total. (BTW - The winning team was Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School from Parkland FL, Parkland is near Ft. Lauderdale so pretty far South). The game is growing
    TO BE CLEAR> MSD High won the State Tourney, didn't do so hot in the national one

    But expense is still the controlling factor. Given the shortage of money I don't expect any schools to be adding womens hockey because it might take money away from football & basketball programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ne7minder View Post
    A thought on hockey expansion: The USAHA national high school championships were held in Plymouth MN last week. (BTW - The winning team was Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School from Parkland FL, Parkland is near Ft. Lauderdale so pretty far South).
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    Yes indeed. Thx.

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    Sidney Peters, Hockey Humanitarian winner. Congrats. Every NC$$ player should listen to her speech. "Hockey is not your identity" and if you think it is repeat after me "Hockey is not your identiy".

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    Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

    Scobee will be the starter next year! Sounds like Clarkson is going to get better quick! Crazy offseason for the gals game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicb View Post
    Sidney Peters, Hockey Humanitarian winner. Congrats. Every NC$$ player should listen to her speech. "Hockey is not your identity" and if you think it is repeat after me "Hockey is not your identiy".

    http://www.uscho.com/2018/04/06/2018...your-identity/
    Wonderful, thanks for posting.
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    Interesting story on the beginning of girls youth hockey in MN. It includes Laura Holldorson as a player
    https://nationals.usahockey.com/news...le/show/904234

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    Quote Originally Posted by ne7minder View Post
    Interesting story on the beginning of girls youth hockey in MN. It includes Laura Holldorson as a player
    https://nationals.usahockey.com/news...le/show/904234
    I'm guessing Laura Halldorson is the 3rd from the left top row player in the colored photo and maybe the lower middle top row player in the black and white photo. It's hard to imagine the usually restrained coach "running across the ice on my toes."

    Thanks for the article.
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    Always nice to see former Gophers doing well after their playing days are over.

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    Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

    The WCHA has a preliminary schedule posted: http://www.wcha.com/women/pres1718/201805/may8wcw.php GWH is taking part in the Windjammer Classic in late November and is hosting the first Minnesota Cup in early January.

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    The WCHA has a preliminary schedule posted: http://www.wcha.com/women/pres1718/201805/may8wcw.php GWH is taking part in the Windjammer Classic in late November and is hosting the first Minnesota Cup in early January.
    More non-conference games against conference opponents we already play four times during the regular season.

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    More non-conference games against conference opponents we already play four times during the regular season.
    Yup. Went from one such game in past years to two such going forward. Not a hardship for me.

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    Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

    Returning sophomore-to-be Alex Gulstene, incoming junior transfer Sydney Scobee, and 2019-20 recruit Makaya Paul were selected to take part in USA Hockey's fourth annual U.S. Women's National Team Goaltending Development Camp this Friday through Sunday at the Schwan Super Rink in Blaine.

    Congrats to all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDave View Post
    The WCHA has a preliminary schedule posted: http://www.wcha.com/women/pres1718/201805/may8wcw.php GWH is taking part in the Windjammer Classic in late November and is hosting the first Minnesota Cup in early January.
    Hope GWH enjoys Burlington! It's a really fun tournament, I like that it has one team from each conference.

    GWH will play SLU; the other semi will be Vermont and Syracuse.
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    Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by OldDave View Post
    The WCHA has a preliminary schedule posted: http://www.wcha.com/women/pres1718/201805/may8wcw.php GWH is taking part in the Windjammer Classic in late November and is hosting the first Minnesota Cup in early January.
    And staying true to my Minnesota roots, I would say that GWH's schedule is "not too bad".

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