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  • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    If I had to guess what it really is, any household between 75,000 and 250,000?
    If someone earning $35 an hour is "low income" to you...
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    • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

      mookie would raise the bottom there, but really anything between 100k-250k is the US middle class now.

      if anybody out there is trying to hold together a family with kids under 100k they are working poor.
      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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      • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

        Originally posted by aparch View Post
        If someone earning $35 an hour is "low income" to you...
        Household.

        Though, I figured the low end was low and the high end was high.
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        • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

          Also, it greatly depends where you live. $75k might go a lot further in some places than others.
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          • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

            Originally posted by aparch View Post
            If someone earning $35 an hour is "low income" to you...
            after taxes, benefits, and 401k that 35 is barely 20. which is minimum wage rounded up
            a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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              • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                If I had to guess what it really is, any household between 75,000 and 250,000?
                Seven-year-old data from the most recent census data, just for MN. The US national avg is included as a comparison.

                Your numbers are high. Very, very high.

                ETA: Actually, your low-end middle class is pretty much dead center for household income. For the high end counties of MN.
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                • Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                  mookie would raise the bottom there, but really anything between 100k-250k is the US middle class now.

                  if anybody out there is trying to hold together a family with kids under 100k they are working poor.
                  Mookie's frame of reference for that statement is Boston, and I'd agree it's probably true in many places on the East Coast for a family of 4. Also depends on your preferred lifestyle. If you insist on 3 family vacations a year, eat out a lot/shop at Whole Foods, and/or own a vacation home, then of course you're going to need to make a lot more than $100k

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                  • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

                    I disagree. But that's fine. Middle class is not the same as median income.
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                    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
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                    Originally posted by Kepler
                    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                    • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

                      it is not a bell curve, correct. the upper class is small, quite small. the poor should be (in theory) the largest group - the working grunts. middle is, well between them.

                      does harvard and the other ivies allow free tuition now for families making 75k and less? that reads like a benefit for the poor to mookie, a group that can't afford to pay a single penny towards tuition.
                      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                      • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

                        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                        I disagree. But that's fine. Middle class is not the same as median income.
                        That means you're saying that more than half of the people in this state are below middle class. This is a state that politicians like to call the bastion of education, and government-corporate cooperation. And the US median is less than that of MN.
                        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                        "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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                        • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

                          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                          That means you're saying that more than half of the people in this state are below middle class. This is a state that politicians like to call the bastion of education, and government-corporate cooperation. And the US median is less than that of MN.
                          class =/= income.
                          a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                          • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

                            Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                            it is not a bell curve, correct. the upper class is small, quite small. the poor should be (in theory) the largest group - the working grunts. middle is, well between them.

                            does harvard and the other ivies allow free tuition now for families making 75k and less? that reads like a benefit for the poor to mookie, a group that can't afford to pay a single penny towards tuition.
                            Harvard's annual tuition sits over $60k, nominal, now. With an endowment fund larger than the total value of some small nations, they have a lot of face saving efforts to do in order to keep the masses of Southies from their gates with pitchforks in hand.
                            "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                            "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                            • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              This is a state that politicians like to call the bastion of education...
                              education doesn't mean one is automatically destined to move up in income or class.
                              a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                              • Re: POTUS 45.12: Dan, does it take courage when encountering the covfefe?

                                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                                class =/= income.
                                There's a very high correlation between the two.
                                "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                                "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                                "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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