POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

[FlagDUDE08]

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I'm just wondering what the thought process is behind Trump's Pittsburgh-not-Paris line yesterday. He does realize that the agreement was only negotiated in Paris, right? Like, you're not automatically beholden to that city just because it's name is on the agreeement.

Pittsburgh has been screwed over by the draconian policies set in Paris.

[alfablue]

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The Saudis called.

As much as I loathe the non-sentient baboon at 1600, this hardly began with him. People confuse Inside America, which is relatively free and democratic, with Outside America, which is just another of 200 viruses fighting a war of all against all to maximize their gains.

Nation-states are like divine right monarchs or corporations -- pathogens that only act morally as a complete accident of self-interest.

My example was more of a new embrace of an old foe who still is a major security risk to us as opposed to shunning an old foe who's only threat to us is their medical advanced in cancer research.

Castro and Cuba were not much worse than the morons the CIA propped up in Central and South America. They, too, did wonders to human rights. And we sponsored them.

Our stance against Cuba is so very hypocritical, it's not even funny. Regardless of administration. Except for the ending of Obama.

[French Rage]

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Pittsburgh has been screwed over by the draconian policies set in Paris.

How has it been screwed over by something that didn't take effect yet?

And my point being, because something was written somewhere doesn't mean it represents only the people there. A minor quibble, yes, but something I don't think he quite understands.

[alfablue]

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How has it been screwed over by something that didn't take effect yet?

And my point being, because something was written somewhere doesn't mean it represents only the people there. A minor quibble, yes, but something I don't think he quite understands.

It's funny that someone has gotten screwed over when nothing has been done.

And I'm not sure how Pittsburg, specifically, got screwed over by the agreement. The only way they could be singled out is being a big source of coal burning. And that downturn isn't Paris' fault- it's cracking's fault.

don also brought up Detroit- apparently not realizing that Ford, GM, and FCA sell cars all over the world- including the HUGE market of China. So they already have to meet those requirements that are quickly changing. By pulling out, it just means many more years of not saving money by having one car that can be sold all over the world.

It does mean that China and India is more likely to listen to other countries industry leaders than ours, though. Thanks, don.

[French Rage]

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And I'm not sure how Pittsburg, specifically, got screwed over by the agreement. The only way they could be singled out is being a big source of coal burning. And that downturn isn't Paris' fault- it's cracking's fault.

Yup. Unless someone can magically wave their hand and make natural gas not exist, coal is not "coming back" like they want. Just like typewriters and horse-drawn carriages are not.

don also brought up Detroit- apparently not realizing that Ford, GM, and FCA sell cars all over the world- including the HUGE market of China. So they already have to meet those requirements that are quickly changing. By pulling out, it just means many more years of not saving money by having one car that can be sold all over the world.

Yup, similar to how companies built towards CA's tougher air standards rather than build two different cars for different markets.

[Kepler]

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Castro and Cuba were not much worse than the morons the CIA propped up in Central and South America. They, too, did wonders to human rights. And we sponsored them.

Our stance against Cuba is so very hypocritical, it's not even funny. Regardless of administration. Except for the ending of Obama.

Of course. It was only ever about sucking up to the rich Cuban exiles who got kicked out by Castro and wanted their gilt-edged lifestyle back.

[Kepler]

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Here's to crime.

[FlagDUDE08]

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It does mean that China and India is more likely to listen to other countries industry leaders than ours, though. Thanks, don.

Because the other countries will give China what they want: A free pass. It'd be like you allowing an Ohio State football player to waltz into the end zone.

Read the agreement closely: The restrictions don't apply to them.

[Kepler]

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Cui bono.

[The Sicatoka]

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Seems even in decapitation, Trump's the bully.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mp-family.html

She's now trying to play the victim ... of her own actions. Good grief.

[St. Clown]

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It's funny that someone has gotten screwed over when nothing has been done.

And I'm not sure how Pittsburg, specifically, got screwed over by the agreement. The only way they could be singled out is being a big source of coal burning. And that downturn isn't Paris' fault- it's cracking's fault.

don also brought up Detroit- apparently not realizing that Ford, GM, and FCA sell cars all over the world- including the HUGE market of China. So they already have to meet those requirements that are quickly changing. By pulling out, it just means many more years of not saving money by having one car that can be sold all over the world.

It does mean that China and India is more likely to listen to other countries industry leaders than ours, though. Thanks, don.

Pittsburgh is known for coal production in the surrounding areas, and steel. They would have to change their practices in order to continue producing steel.

The city has actually been in the process of redefining itself for the past decade or so. The Paris Accord/Treaty wouldn't have had as much of an effect on the city as the Trumpster Fire's people told him.

[alfablue]

Pittsburgh is known for coal production in the surrounding areas, and steel. They would have to change their practices in order to continue producing steel.

The city has actually been in the process of redefining itself for the past decade or so. The Paris Accord/Treaty wouldn't have had as much of an effect on the city as the Trumpster Fire's people told him.

The potential of huge $$ is for anyone who can find a different way of making both steel and aluminum.

But we are giving that to china now.

[WeAreNDHockey]

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Seems even in decapitation, Trump's the bully.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mp-family.html

She's now trying to play the victim ... of her own actions. Good grief.

And the king of false equivalency strikes again. You know no one here really defended Griffin, right? Opinions expressed were along the lines of "not funny" and "she went too far" and "we didn't like it when Obama was hung in effigy and this is no better." You can take the outrage somewhere else mr. I didn't vote for trump but I defend and excuse everything he does.

[Gurtholfin]

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I ignore Ted Nugent.

I ignore Kathy Whatever.


They're crying out for attention.

I do listen to Stranglehold every once in a while though.

[St. Clown]

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The potential of huge $$ is for anyone who can find a different way of making both steel and aluminum.

But we are giving that to china now.

Are we still? GWB signed into law a tariff on Chinese steel, doubling the price of it. That had to have been 2004 or 2005, I think. I remember the price of free weights doubled overnight when I was in the process of building up my weightlifting set. I know that kept a few plants in Illinois running along the Mississippi river, but it's also been 10 years since I was down there.