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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    Of course feel bad for McCain and I'm not just saying that because it sounds like a death sentence if he indeed has the same kind of cancer Ted Kennedy had, but I can't see them advancing anything without him there despite this late night meeting idiocy called by Trump. Collins won't vote for any of it and neither will Rand Paul. That tops it off at 49 Senators regardless. Anything that appeals to either Paul or Collins will push a dozen people off the cliff on the other end.
    They all campaigned for repeal. Voted for repeal when there was no possibility of repeal. Now that repeal is possible, they enact the Brave, brave Sir Robin defense.

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    They all campaigned for repeal. Voted for repeal when there was no possibility of repeal. Now that repeal is possible, they enact the Brave, brave Sir Robin defense.

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    Serious question, though. Does this in any way change your voting going forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Serious question, though. Does this in any way change your voting going forward?

    If the GOP can keep pulling away the football, but Charlie Brown keeps on sticking by them...
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    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

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    I know that is definitely the America The Founders envisioned!
    To be honest, if this is happening to the Poors it kinda is...
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    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    They all campaigned for repeal. Voted for repeal when there was no possibility of repeal. Now that repeal is possible, they enact the Brave, brave Sir Robin defense.

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    I agree but do the math. 52 Goopers - 1 in McCain being ill - 1 in Collins who voted against repeal last time so at least she's being consistent. That means no margin of error and a coalition that's relying on self serving jack@zzes like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Ron Johnson, among others, for the winning vote. Good luck with that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Serious question, though. Does this in any way change your voting going forward?

    If the GOP can keep pulling away the football, but Charlie Brown keeps on sticking by them...
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    Depends on who is running. And we'd have to first elect a Republican in Maryland for me to vote them out.

    For the record, I'm voting to retain Hogan as governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    To be honest, if this is happening to the Poors it kinda is...
    Problem is it isnt just happening to the Poors...
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    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    I agree but do the math. 52 Goopers - 1 in McCain being ill - 1 in Collins who voted against repeal last time so at least she's being consistent. That means no margin of error and a coalition that's relying on self serving jack@zzes like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Ron Johnson, among others, for the winning vote. Good luck with that....
    Dont forget Dean Heller wont vote straight repeal either. He is up for re-election and he will get destroyed if he does. The issues with Medicaid alone make it impossible for him.

    Even WITH McCain at best they could win with a Pence vote (and that would take a miracle to even get to 50) but with McCain out they have zero chance.
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    7 Years and NOT A SINGLE ****ING NEW IDEA.

    But, they've been very successful at what they do. And what they do is funnel money to the 1%. They are fantastic at it and Democrats let them get away with it.
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    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

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    7 Years and NOT A SINGLE ****ING NEW IDEA.

    But, they've been very successful at what they do. And what they do is funnel money to the 1%. They are fantastic at it and Democrats let them get away with it.
    Because the Democrats are terrified of going against the 1%. They have to do much the same due to Citizens United. Bernie managed a grass roots effort, but where do you get 30 Senators and 100 Reps using grass roots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bronconick View Post
    Because the Democrats are terrified of going against the 1%. They have to do much the same due to Citizens United. Bernie managed a grass roots effort, but where do you get 30 Senators and 100 Reps using grass roots?
    Yeah, but it started with Reagan. And the Democrats let it escalate to what we have now. If they had done a better job back then we wouldn't have such a cluster**** now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    They all campaigned for repeal. Voted for repeal when there was no possibility of repeal. Now that repeal is possible, they enact the Brave, brave Sir Robin defense.

    Cowards.
    Did you expect anything different?

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    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

    Quote Originally Posted by ericredaxe View Post
    Did you expect anything different?
    I figured after 7 years they'd have one new idea. Just one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    They all campaigned for repeal. Voted for repeal when there was no possibility of repeal. Now that repeal is possible, they enact the Brave, brave Sir Robin defense.

    Cowards.
    More and more, my claim about no difference between the democrats and republicans is coming to fruition.

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    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    They all campaigned for repeal. Voted for repeal when there was no possibility of repeal. Now that repeal is possible, they enact the Brave, brave Sir Robin defense.

    Cowards.
    It's a heck of a lot easier to be Anti-the-Other-Guy because they are dangerous vs. having ideas.

    And in this case, President Obama was clever to take an idea from a Republican Governor so that any possible idea to actually replace it will likely be the same thing. Which has done a great job at illustrating that the R's are no more than an Anti D group. And not much else.

    Other than lower taxes for people who don't need them, including spending a lot of money on expensive defensive items, R's have had little to bring to the table for a long time- other than being anti-Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    It's a heck of a lot easier to be Anti-the-Other-Guy because they are dangerous vs. having ideas.

    And in this case, President Obama was clever to take an idea from a Republican Governor so that any possible idea to actually replace it will likely be the same thing. Which has done a great job at illustrating that the R's are no more than an Anti D group. And not much else.

    Other than lower taxes for people who don't need them, including spending a lot of money on expensive defensive items, R's have had little to bring to the table for a long time- other than being anti-Democrats.
    Both parties spend like no tomorrow; they just want to spend on different things. However, what's the word in common? And what is one of the sure fire ways to reduce any deficit? And don't give me some bull about "mandatory spending" either; that's just lip service for spending desire. Let's get some more cease-fires in place and start cutting "defense" which looks more like offense. Let's make cuts to SS and Medicare that has been stolen from for years and are supposedly revenue neutral through payroll taxes but only cover about half of the actual cost. Let's get rid of the PPACA that has billions in pork incentives and has done nothing but completely hamper the spending power of the people that would be able to generate sales and income tax revenues (although I disagree with the premise of the second, it's technically part of the Constitution, so we gotta go with it for the time being). It's high time this country sets an example for the millions heavily indebted and actually spends within their means.
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