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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    I'm not sure why it is a completely separate healthcare system, however:
    Because dental work is largely for cosmetic or comfort purposes. If the issue is actually dangerous to your overall health, the ER can pull teeth. But you don't need teeth the way you need lungs or a liver.
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    Because dental work is largely for cosmetic or comfort purposes. If the issue is actually dangerous to your overall health, the ER can pull teeth. But you don't need teeth the way you need lungs or a liver.
    That makes no sense. The dental separation comes from a time when dental work was life saving, and plastic surgeons are still considered doctors.

    It looks like the doctor / dentist split was driven by internal politics and profit seeking, not substantive medical issues.
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    So, no vote because one guy is out sick? Really?
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    So, no vote because one guy is out sick? Really?
    That one guy is the difference. Rand Paul, Collins and Heller being firm "nos" all but destroyed Mitch's plan.
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    So, no vote because one guy is out sick? Really?
    The GOP doesn't have any excuses to push through without debates, now.

    This may be Mitch hoping support collapses. So much easier to run against this boogeyman forever than actually govern.
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    That makes no sense. The dental separation comes from a time when dental work was life saving, and plastic surgeons are still considered doctors.
    Dentists are still considered doctors too, but the point we were discussing of was whether they should be covered under traditional health insurance, and cosmetic surgery isn't.
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    Dentists are still considered doctors too, but the point we were discussing of was whether they should be covered under traditional health insurance, and cosmetic surgery isn't.
    Oh, OK. I was one argument back in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    That makes no sense. The dental separation comes from a time when dental work was life saving, and plastic surgeons are still considered doctors.

    It looks like the doctor / dentist split was driven by internal politics and profit seeking, not substantive medical issues.
    An abcessed tooth is a life threatening condition.

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    So, no vote because one guy is out sick? Really?
    Dude. He's not out sick, it's a pretty serious condition. Don't stoop man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaizeRage View Post
    Dentists are still considered doctors too, but the point we were discussing of was whether they should be covered under traditional health insurance, and cosmetic surgery isn't.
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    Dude. He's not out sick, it's a pretty serious condition. Don't stoop man.
    Wasn't really my point. i was not trying to be disparaging to McCain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Dude. He's not out sick, it's a pretty serious condition. Don't stoop man.

    if he were a democrat I doubt turtle boy would delay the vote...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaizeRage View Post
    Dentists are still considered doctors too, but the point we were discussing of was whether they should be covered under traditional health insurance, and cosmetic surgery isn't.
    Certainly some cosmetic surgery is covered under traditional health insurance. Breast reconstruction for breast cancer survivors is one very common example. Your example of just pulling the abscessed tooth in the ER would be like performing a mastectomy with no reconstructive surgery.
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    if he were a democrat I doubt turtle boy would delay the vote...
    That's separate from the point I'm making.

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    Well, it's official. Literally everybody hates the Cruz amendment.
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    Well, it's official. Literally everybody hates the Cruz amendment.
    Of course they do. They want people to use medical services so the insurers can get their cut. If people have no insurance and they become gravely ill and go into medical bankruptcy.
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    I think the best plan at this point is to try and stay healthy and if for some reason you can't plan out your bankruptcy ahead of time. I'm going to start planning that out now so I know what's involved and how it works.
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    Man, that is cynical.
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    Moran and Lee kllled McConnell's bill tonight.
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