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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    And my point is, there are as many racist Dems, they just conceal it in subtle ways. Republicans are way more open about it, which I've stated, and I think that is definitely the truth.
    So did the racist Dems just vote Trump this time around? Because racism clearly was a factor with voters where Trump crushed Clinton at the polls. Of course there are racist Dems, but just as many, not likely.
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    Haven't deleted anything. It's all in your head.

    But the KKK is a hate organization. The communist party is nothing of the sort.
    Right, that is the flaw in his logic. Communism is a political movement and philosophy. Even though this country demonized it for decades there is nothing inherently evil about it. The KKK in its current incarnation is a hate group meant to terrorize and subjugate Blacks and non-christians. They often are linked to politics but are not a political group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    Are you sure?
    Yes, I am.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    And my point is, there are as many racist Dems.
    No, there are not. There are racist Dems, but their numbers are no where near the number of racist GOPers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    JFC. The king of false equivalency strikes again.
    I didn't explain myself on this one, and for that I apologize profusely.

    DX had sad Trump is a racist b/c the KKK vouched for him. Another person asked that since the communist party vouched for Obama, that must make Obama a commie, right?

    Just because a certain group vouches for a person, that doesn't make that person part of/associated with/in line with that group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I didn't explain myself on this one, and for that I apologize profusely.

    DX had sad Trump is a racist b/c the KKK vouched for him. Another person asked that since the communist party vouched for Obama, that must make Obama a commie, right?

    Just because a certain group vouches for a person, that doesn't make that person part of/associated with/in line with that group.
    Trump's actions make him a racist. Pure and simple. There's no reason to split hairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurtholfin View Post
    Everyone is racist to some degree...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I didn't explain myself on this one, and for that I apologize profusely.

    DX had sad Trump is a racist b/c the KKK vouched for him. Another person asked that since the communist party vouched for Obama, that must make Obama a commie, right?

    Just because a certain group vouches for a person, that doesn't make that person part of/associated with/in line with that group.
    don doesn't need the KKK to be labeled a racist. He does a great job showing it, in spades.

    But to use those groups as some how good examples of a person being bad, well, that's interesting....

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    So it appears that the Republicans (Chaffetz) want the Comey memos but don't want Trump's tapes? Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Sicatoka would choke a biotch
    Depends.
    Will it be the "Freaky Friday" version of Chuck (him channeling McConnell)?* Then, maybe.
    If it's Chuck being Chuck, he, at least I know where he's coming from ... consistently.

    *The whole video is pretty good. Like I've said, all this is is script-flipping in DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jericho View Post
    Here's an intriguing scenario: the House brings articles of impeachment against Trump. The Senate puts him on trial, and two GOP Senators flip, making it 50 no 50 yes. Does Pence vote yes, thus making himself POTUS, or does he vote no?
    Is Pence a politician? He'll vote more power to himself. (The rest of the GOP is already against for gettin' snuggly with Trump so what's he lose?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I didn't explain myself on this one, and for that I apologize profusely.

    DX had sad Trump is a racist b/c the KKK vouched for him. Another person asked that since the communist party vouched for Obama, that must make Obama a commie, right?

    Just because a certain group vouches for a person, that doesn't make that person part of/associated with/in line with that group.
    No. I said that all of the racist hate groups endorsed Trump.

    This was after you or dillo said the democrats decided to implement some sort of identity politics push. To which I said that identity politics is just a code word for social conservatism which is chock full of racist, bigoted, and plutocratic policies.

    I then followed that up with "If the working class are racists and vote republican, fine. They are the ones who suffer most under virtually every GOP fiscal policy."

    You said "There are no angels anymore in politics. As for racists, there are just as many racist Dems and Repubs. Racism knows no party. One party is just a bit more vocal about it."

    I replied, "Remind me again who the KKK endorsed? Or who Richard Spencer endorsed. What about David duke?

    Now, who did the human rights campaign endorse? The NAACP?

    The reason they are more vocal is because they supported trump. It's just that simple."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    So it appears that the Republicans (Chaffetz) want the Comey memos but don't want Trump's tapes? Why?
    Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Comey's memos and Trump's tapes are walking down the street...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Depends.
    Will it be the "Freaky Friday" version of Chuck (him channeling McConnell)?* Then, maybe.
    If it's Chuck being Chuck, he, at least I know where he's coming from ... consistently.

    *The whole video is pretty good. Like I've said, all this is is script-flipping in DC.
    Sooo...any comment on Trump and the leaking of intel? Knowing how much you despise the very idea of that you must want him impeached correct? (honest questions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerphisch View Post
    ... Comey's memos and Trump's tapes are walking down the street...
    Mentioning those, what if the words in each don't match?

    Trump would be damaged: He's TAPING!

    Comey? Any shred of credibility would be gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Sooo...any comment on Trump and the leaking of intel? Knowing how much you despise the very idea of that you must want him impeached correct? (honest questions)
    What's the charge? The President can declassify information and that's what he ham-handedly did. If that's a smart power to vest is another story.

    That's what I don't get. I keep hearing "impeach". What's the charge. Did he violate the tenure of office act? Did he order a break in at a DC hotel? Did he perjure himself to a grand jury? The closest might be "obstruction"; but, is "hope you can let this go" obstruction? Is there a prosecutor that'd take that on?

    The statute reads:

    Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsified, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under Title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
    Does "hope" meet that?

    Now if there's something other than "hope" ... file the charges.

    Being a self-absorbed, phony, smarmy ***** is not an impeachable charge. (If it was we'd have impeached far more elected officials from both sides.)


    Like I've said: I'm on manila envelope watch. The Comey memo(s)? That's not it. If there's real, irrefutable stuff it's going to show up on a Congressional Democrat's Georgetown townhome's front stoop one morning sooner or later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    What's the charge? The President can declassify information and that's what he ham-handedly did. If that's a smart power to vest is another story.

    That's what I don't get. I keep hearing "impeach". What's the charge. Did he violate the tenure of office act? Did he order a break in at a DC hotel? Did he perjure himself to a grand jury? The closest might be "obstruction"; but, is "hope you can let this go" obstruction? Is there a prosecutor that'd take that on?

    The statute reads:



    Does "hope" meet that?

    Now if there's something other than "hope" ... file the charges.
    Oh for fark's sake. After all the ranting and raving you did about Hillary's emails and how she should've been locked up and would've been if she was anyone else, you're arguing Trump's side for this?

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    If someone is going to get to the bottom of this, it needs to be Patrick Fitzgerald.

    For more than a decade, until June 30, 2012, Fitzgerald was the United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.[2] Prior to his appointment, he served as Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York for 13 years and as Chief of the Organized Crime-Terrorism Unit since December 1995, where he participated in the prosecution of United States v. Usama Bin Laden, et al., United States v. Abdel Rahman, et al., and United States v. Ramzi Yousef Rahman, et al.

    As special counsel for the U.S. Department of Justice Office of Special Counsel, Fitzgerald was the federal prosecutor in charge of the investigation of the Valerie Plame Affair, which led to the prosecution and conviction in 2007 of Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby for perjury.[3][4]

    As a federal prosecutor, he led a number of high-profile investigations, including ones that led to convictions of Illinois Governors Rod Blagojevich and George Ryan, media mogul Conrad Black, several aides to Chicago Mayor Richard Daley in the Hired Truck Program, and Chicago detective and torturer Jon Burge.
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    The man holds the magic declassification wand.
    Like I said, is that a smart power to vest?
    I don't have to like it, but it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    The man holds the magic declassification wand.
    Like I said, is that a smart power to vest?
    I don't have to like it, but it is what it is.
    That has nothing to do with the obstruction allegations, and you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    The man holds the magic declassification wand.
    Like I said, is that a smart power to vest?
    I don't have to like it, but it is what it is.
    Just because it's legal for the president to be careless with classified information doesn't make it not careless. The fact is, you were very vocal about Hillary's careless handling of classified information--and what do you do when Trump does the same? You defend him by playing legal scholar.

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