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Originally posted by ARM View PostI didn't think that there was as much top-end talent in the college game this year as we've seen some other years.Originally posted by Leather helmet View PostIs it possible that another reason is that more players are continuing to train and play elite-level hockey even after college graduation than before?Grant Salzano, Boston College '10
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Originally posted by joecct View PostAren't the Olympic payments NCAA exempt?
bylaw 12.1.2.1.5 “Payment Based on Performance” defines the following type of payment as a trigger for losing one’s amateur status:
“Any payment, including actual and necessary expenses, conditioned on the individual’s or team’s place finish or performance or given on an incentive basis, or receipt of expenses in excess of the same reasonable amount for permissible expenses given to all individuals or team members involved in the competition.”
However,on page 64 of this 426 page manual are two rules that carve out exceptions. Specifically, 12.1.2.1.4.3.2 “Expenses/Benefits Related to Olympic Games” says that:
“It is permissible for members of an Olympic team to receive all nonmonetary benefits and awards provided to members of an Olympic team beyond actual and necessary expenses, including entertainment, equipment, clothing, long distance telephone service, Internet access, and any other item or service for which it can be demonstrated that the same benefit is available to all members of that nation’s Olympic team or the specific sport Olympic team in question.”
That seems to me to say taking the team pay is OK . . . I guess
Additionally, 12.1.2.1.4.3.3 “Operation Gold Grant” (the bit that pays individuals for winning medals) says that:
“An individual(prospective student-athlete or student-athlete) may accept funds that are administered by the U.S. Olympic Committee pursuant to its Operation Gold program.”
I know the kids are not allowed agents but they need lawyers!
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Originally posted by ne7minder View Post“It is permissible for members of an Olympic team to receive all nonmonetary benefits and awards provided to members of an Olympic team beyond actual and necessary expenses, including entertainment, equipment, clothing, long distance telephone service, Internet access, and any other item or service for which it can be demonstrated that the same benefit is available to all members of that nation’s Olympic team or the specific sport Olympic team in question.”
That seems to me to say taking the team pay is OK . . . I guess
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Originally posted by vicb View Post
Or maybe it's Western bias .
If you want to win gold, why would you chose players who have a proven history of winning championships, proven their skill by leading the nation in scoring, been selected as All-American, Patty K nominees, …
The team should not be made up of the best players, but rather who will make the best team. You don’t want a team made up of all stars …........... blah blah blah.
oh, and a woman coach can relate to players in a way men cannot
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Originally posted by pokechecker View PostFor sure western bias.
If you want to win gold, why would you chose players who have a proven history of winning championships, proven their skill by leading the nation in scoring, been selected as All-American, Patty K nominees, …
The team should not be made up of the best players, but rather who will make the best team. You don’t want a team made up of all stars …........... blah blah blah.
oh, and a woman coach can relate to players in a way men cannot
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And here is Canada's centralized roster.
https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/ne...ad-of-olympicsCCT '77 & '78
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5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)
”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
- Benjamin Franklin
Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).
I want to live forever. So far, so good.
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Originally posted by ne7minder View Postbut it also says "other item or service for which it can be demonstrated that the same benefit is available to all members "
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Has there ever been any thoughts floating around out there that Frosty could be a potential Olympic team coach? He has more experience than Stauber for instance.Wisconsin Hockey: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 WE WANT MORE!
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Originally posted by Timothy A View PostHas there ever been any thoughts floating around out there that Frosty could be a potential Olympic team coach? He has more experience than Stauber for instance.
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Looking ahead to the 2017-18 D1 season I don't think there's any argument that no team will potentially be more impacted by the Olympics than the Minnesota Gophers. Assuming all three centralized players - Kelly Pannek, Sarah Potomak and Amy Potomak - are missing for the entire season would obviously be a very big hit, talent wise, to the Gopher's roster. Of course the upside, if this should happen, would be that all three players would greatly improve their games for a possible strong run in 2018-19 (assuming Pannek returns).
And I don't mean to be overly pessimistic about the Gopher's upcoming season as there is still plenty of returning and incoming talent to carry the team to NCAA tournament, a possible Final Four berth and then who knows? But my-o-my what a difference these three would make offensively if it were not for the Olympic year interruption...especially when compared to the relatively minor losses that their competition will experience.Last edited by D2D; 05-12-2017, 03:23 PM.Minnesota Golden Gopher Hockey
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Originally posted by D2D View PostLooking ahead to the 2017-18 D1 season I don't think there's any argument that no team will potentially be more impacted by the Olympics than the Minnesota Gophers. Assuming all three centralized players - Kelly Pannek, Sarah Potomak and Amy Potomak - are missing for the entire season would obviously be a very big hit, talent wise, to the Gopher's roster. Of course the upside, if this should happen, would be that all three players would greatly improve their games for a possible strong run in 2018-19 (assuming Pannek returns).
And I don't mean to be overly pessimistic about the Gopher's upcoming season as there is still plenty of returning and incoming talent to carry the team to NCAA tournament, a possible Final Four berth and then who knows? But my-o-my what a difference these three would make offensively if it were not for the Olympic year interruption...especially when compared to the relatively minor losses that their competition will experience.
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Originally posted by shelfit View PostExcept he's Canadian, from a small town in Ontario I believe. Shh, don't tell anyone!"... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling
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