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    So BC players have accounted for 6 of the 12 USA goals so far in the tournament which is a fun and good stat that everyone should be aware of
    Offense is not an issue with bc players...On the two Canada goals #8 and #3 had defensive breakdowns.

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    Offense is not an issue with bc players...On the two Canada goals #8 and #3 had defensive breakdowns.

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    Offense is not an issue with bc players...On the two Canada goals #8 and #3 had defensive breakdowns.

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    Well, there's not enough to see on the first goal either way whether Pfalzer should have covered it better. However, I don't think you can blame Barnes at all for Agosta's goal. It looked like Bellamy made a poor turnover and Barnes couldn't match Agosta's speed.
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    Well, there's not enough to see on the first goal either way whether Pfalzer should have covered it better. However, I don't think you can blame Barnes at all for Agosta's goal. It looked like Bellamy made a poor turnover and Barnes couldn't match Agosta's speed.
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    Well, there's not enough to see on the first goal either way whether Pfalzer should have covered it better. However, I don't think you can blame Barnes at all for Agosta's goal. It looked like Bellamy made a poor turnover and Barnes couldn't match Agosta's speed.
    Pause the video at points in the 29 to 31 second mark and you will see the progression of Johnston receiving the pass and the positioning of Pfalzer. Gave way too much room to the outside. True that Bellamy had a bad turnover but look at the 51 second mark at where Barnes was positioned. She was actually in pretty good position but came out of her backwards skate too slowly and had a slight bobble on her hip turn.

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    How did you feel after the 5-1 win?
    Fluke. Most of the goals (and the only ones team canada can score now) come from major defensive breakdowns, 2 on 1s, shorthanded breakaways from glaring defensive errors from team USA that could be readily fixed by watching tape

    I am most troubled and disturbed by "coach" Laura Schuler's post-game comments/excuses each time they lose to team USA. Among some gems are "this is not the level we have played in the past", "we have played so much better in practice", "we were better in the past". isn't this so troubling to hear? Disturbing, actually, considering their past record is equally garbage against USA. i have a horrible feeling that she is trying to save her job more than getting the women to win.

    the players i believe are part of this cancer that is the hot garbage of team canada women's national team program. ever since Wickenheiser and Ouellette left the team, the culture now has dissolved into some snobby image-obsessed shell complete with cringe-y hashtags, selfie sticks, and gimmicky social media fluff pieces. this was all borne from their flukey Sochi win, which was the flukiest win in all of women's team sports history. When wickenheiser was captain, sure, people hated her in the dressing room but still respected her. now, the culture looks like this:
    https://imgix.elitedaily.com/uploads...8c2f-giphy.gif

    Poulin should not be captain IMO.
    Schuler should have gone long ago
    with all the massive PP gifts they got from the game yesterday, and still getting outshot by team USA, i wonder what excuse they have now. Maybe, "player x forgot her selfie stick at home".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaffron View Post
    Fluke. Most of the goals (and the only ones team canada can score now) come from major defensive breakdowns, 2 on 1s, shorthanded breakaways from glaring defensive errors from team USA that could be readily fixed by watching tape

    I am most troubled and disturbed by "coach" Laura Schuler's post-game comments/excuses each time they lose to team USA. Among some gems are "this is not the level we have played in the past", "we have played so much better in practice", "we were better in the past". isn't this so troubling to hear? Disturbing, actually, considering their past record is equally garbage against USA. i have a horrible feeling that she is trying to save her job more than getting the women to win.

    the players i believe are part of this cancer that is the hot garbage of team canada women's national team program. ever since Wickenheiser and Ouellette left the team, the culture now has dissolved into some snobby image-obsessed shell complete with cringe-y hashtags, selfie sticks, and gimmicky social media fluff pieces. this was all borne from their flukey Sochi win, which was the flukiest win in all of women's team sports history. When wickenheiser was captain, sure, people hated her in the dressing room but still respected her. now, the culture looks like this:
    https://imgix.elitedaily.com/uploads...8c2f-giphy.gif

    Poulin should not be captain IMO.
    Schuler should have gone long ago
    with all the massive PP gifts they got from the game yesterday, and still getting outshot by team USA, i wonder what excuse they have now. Maybe, "player x forgot her selfie stick at home".
    I have to admit that your post made me laugh. I don't agree with everything you say but do see some of the same issues you mention. Some older players do not belong. Some younger players definitely do not belong. As for leadership, Poulin is one of the most respected female hockey players in the world, on and off the ice so do not get your comments on the Captain. The coach is obviously under a lot of pressure and you can see it in her body language. It's not good. This team feels entitled and has become a click like most of the other HC programs. Things need to change and winning the Olympics again will lead to the status quo. Maybe you are best to leave things alone and let the future results determine next steps. I simply can't see the US losing again unless Canada catches them on an off night like they did in Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaffron View Post
    Maybe, "player x forgot her selfie stick at home".
    Or maybe her selfie stick was the wrong flex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckdrop14 View Post
    I have to admit that your post made me laugh. I don't agree with everything you say but do see some of the same issues you mention. Some older players do not belong. Some younger players definitely do not belong. As for leadership, Poulin is one of the most respected female hockey players in the world, on and off the ice so do not get your comments on the Captain. The coach is obviously under a lot of pressure and you can see it in her body language. It's not good. This team feels entitled and has become a click like most of the other HC programs. Things need to change and winning the Olympics again will lead to the status quo. Maybe you are best to leave things alone and let the future results determine next steps. I simply can't see the US losing again unless Canada catches them on an off night like they did in Boston.
    You do mean this team "has become a clique" don't you?!

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    I simply can't see the US losing again unless Canada catches them on an off night like they did in Boston.
    Or as seems to happen in the Olympic Games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shelfit View Post
    You do mean this team "has become a clique" don't you?!
    Yes indeed. Appreciate you catching that Spellfit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaffron View Post
    Fluke. Most of the goals (and the only ones team canada can score now) come from major defensive breakdowns, 2 on 1s, shorthanded breakaways from glaring defensive errors from team USA that could be readily fixed by watching tape

    I am most troubled and disturbed by "coach" Laura Schuler's post-game comments/excuses each time they lose to team USA. Among some gems are "this is not the level we have played in the past", "we have played so much better in practice", "we were better in the past". isn't this so troubling to hear? Disturbing, actually, considering their past record is equally garbage against USA. i have a horrible feeling that she is trying to save her job more than getting the women to win.

    the players i believe are part of this cancer that is the hot garbage of team canada women's national team program. ever since Wickenheiser and Ouellette left the team, the culture now has dissolved into some snobby image-obsessed shell complete with cringe-y hashtags, selfie sticks, and gimmicky social media fluff pieces. this was all borne from their flukey Sochi win, which was the flukiest win in all of women's team sports history. When wickenheiser was captain, sure, people hated her in the dressing room but still respected her. now, the culture looks like this:
    https://imgix.elitedaily.com/uploads...8c2f-giphy.gif

    Poulin should not be captain IMO.
    Schuler should have gone long ago
    with all the massive PP gifts they got from the game yesterday, and still getting outshot by team USA, i wonder what excuse they have now. Maybe, "player x forgot her selfie stick at home".
    how is this any different than other people the same age?

    this is even funnier than your first post, keep them coming
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    Yes indeed. Appreciate you catching that Spellfit
    shelfit you have to admit this was pretty good lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger20 View Post
    shelfit you have to admit this was pretty good lol
    Absolutely love it! Very punny indeed. Well played by Puckdrop14!

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    I have to admit that your post made me laugh. I don't agree with everything you say but do see some of the same issues you mention. Some older players do not belong. Some younger players definitely do not belong. As for leadership, Poulin is one of the most respected female hockey players in the world, on and off the ice so do not get your comments on the Captain. The coach is obviously under a lot of pressure and you can see it in her body language. It's not good. This team feels entitled and has become a click like most of the other HC programs. Things need to change and winning the Olympics again will lead to the status quo. Maybe you are best to leave things alone and let the future results determine next steps. I simply can't see the US losing again unless Canada catches them on an off night like they did in Boston.
    i hope that meaghan mikkelson does not make the Olympic team only because she is meaghan mikkelson, 2-time olympic gold medalist. I am sorry to say this but i think she may have the worst shot in women's hockey.

    A skilled player and respectful nicey nice humanitarian a great captain one does not automatically make. I am sorry to say again, because i don't like meghan duggan, but I watched a post game interview with her and she sounds like a captain. Like, I would not doubt the fact that she is captain of team USA if i had not known of this fact earlier. captains do not have to be well liked at all in the dressing room. Look at wickenheiser and what she was able to do. respect is better. in fact, i would be awfully concerned if captains were too well-liked. captains are there to rally the troops, to organize and be tough and win, not play cat's cradle afterwards.

    i hate to say this but i think that team canada women's giving of the C to poulin after Sochi was a symbolic move.

    Now I don't know what exactly goes on in the players' heads. But the problem is, since wickenheiser and the grizzled veterans all left the team after Sochi, i believe there was a collective sigh of relief. if true, which I think is, then that is deeply concerning. the players, especially those who won in Sochi for the first time, i believe got arrogant and cocky and they think they run the prison now even though that sochi win was a total fluke. I do not know what goes in the players' heads. but Jenner and Spooner look horrible out there and what i see from those two is a total lack of discipline and focus out there. some cannot stick handle in the offensive zone to save their lives. so it is not surprising that Rebecca Johnston and Agosta are the best players on team Canada who have been consistently producing thus far, and those two are the most veteran members of the team (who have played with the likes of wickenheiser, ouellette, hefford for the longest times). Agosta played with wickenheiser and was her formidable linemate in sochi, even.

    this team will need 29 year old Rebecca Johnston and 31 year old Meghan Agosta to show the way along with 30 year old haley irwin (who i hope will be given the captaincy).

    the era of wickenheiser and ouellette yielded many great and victorious returns for the culture of the team canada women's program. sadly, with wickenheiser gone, the first time sochi winners are jockeying for leadership positions who i believe are turning the culture of this team into the dumpster fire that it currently is. perhaps true, perhaps not, but i think the former.

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    how is this any different than other people the same age?
    Because it is distracting and detracting from the continually worsening product they are putting out on the ice. sometimes, i do not know from looking at the team social media page if they are on their way to participate in a christmas paegaent or if they are on their way to play USA. but if they think that it is elevating the profile of the women's game, and attracting teeny-boppers is an objective of theirs to appeal to grassroots hockey members, then that is their prerogative. personally, i think that a more concrete way to elevate the profile of the game would be to win? There are many opportunities to do so. Like maybe winning against your biggest rivals in a hometown world championships, like in Kamloops British Columbia in 2016? That would elevate the game and reach their desired audience. but no, they are so bad that selfie stick culture reigns.

    the teeny bopper stuff in social media is detracting from their crap on-ice performance. It is obvious by the way in which the canadian media is now drinking the kool-aid (i just cannot read another fluff piece on spooner again, it is as if the journalists had never watched women's hockey before or watched knight) rather than holding their horrible performances accountable. there is such lack of thoughtful critical journalism regarding the worsening state of the team. this team is a dumpster fire right now and the cutesy selfie stick culture is pulling the wool over the eyes of many, sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaffron View Post
    i hope that meaghan mikkelson does not make the Olympic team only because she is meaghan mikkelson, 2-time olympic gold medalist. I am sorry to say this but i think she may have the worst shot in women's hockey.

    A skilled player and respectful nicey nice humanitarian a great captain one does not automatically make. I am sorry to say again, because i don't like meghan duggan, but I watched a post game interview with her and she sounds like a captain. Like, I would not doubt the fact that she is captain of team USA if i had not known of this fact earlier. captains do not have to be well liked at all in the dressing room. Look at wickenheiser and what she was able to do. respect is better. in fact, i would be awfully concerned if captains were too well-liked. captains are there to rally the troops, to organize and be tough and win, not play cat's cradle afterwards.

    i hate to say this but i think that team canada women's giving of the C to poulin after Sochi was a symbolic move.

    Now I don't know what exactly goes on in the players' heads. But the problem is, since wickenheiser and the grizzled veterans all left the team after Sochi, i believe there was a collective sigh of relief. if true, which I think is, then that is deeply concerning. the players, especially those who won in Sochi for the first time, i believe got arrogant and cocky and they think they run the prison now even though that sochi win was a total fluke. I do not know what goes in the players' heads. but Jenner and Spooner look horrible out there and what i see from those two is a total lack of discipline and focus out there. some cannot stick handle in the offensive zone to save their lives. so it is not surprising that Rebecca Johnston and Agosta are the best players on team Canada who have been consistently producing thus far, and those two are the most veteran members of the team (who have played with the likes of wickenheiser, ouellette, hefford for the longest times). Agosta played with wickenheiser and was her formidable linemate in sochi, even.

    this team will need 29 year old Rebecca Johnston and 31 year old Meghan Agosta to show the way along with 30 year old haley irwin (who i hope will be given the captaincy).

    the era of wickenheiser and ouellette yielded many great and victorious returns for the culture of the team canada women's program. sadly, with wickenheiser gone, the first time sochi winners are jockeying for leadership positions who i believe are turning the culture of this team into the dumpster fire that it currently is. perhaps true, perhaps not, but i think the former.



    Because it is distracting and detracting from the continually worsening product they are putting out on the ice. sometimes, i do not know from looking at the team social media page if they are on their way to participate in a christmas paegaent or if they are on their way to play USA. but if they think that it is elevating the profile of the women's game, and attracting teeny-boppers is an objective of theirs to appeal to grassroots hockey members, then that is their prerogative. personally, i think that a more concrete way to elevate the profile of the game would be to win? There are many opportunities to do so. Like maybe winning against your biggest rivals in a hometown world championships, like in Kamloops British Columbia in 2016? That would elevate the game and reach their desired audience. but no, they are so bad that selfie stick culture reigns.

    the teeny bopper stuff in social media is detracting from their crap on-ice performance. It is obvious by the way in which the canadian media is now drinking the kool-aid (i just cannot read another fluff piece on spooner again, it is as if the journalists had never watched women's hockey before or watched knight) rather than holding their horrible performances accountable. there is such lack of thoughtful critical journalism regarding the worsening state of the team. this team is a dumpster fire right now and the cutesy selfie stick culture is pulling the wool over the eyes of many, sadly.
    Use the up arrow ⬆ or Shift key to capitalize your sentences. Otherwise you come across as a dumb teeny bopper yourself.

    Agosta should be the captain with Johnston and Irwin as her assistant captains. Anything different will be a mistake and lead to Canada's failure.....guaranteed. Even if those 3 are the team captains there's no guarantee Canada will be able to win gold because the head coach is an inferior selection who is incapable of succeeding at any level, in my opinion. USA, USA, USA! LOL. What better way to celebrate the 20th anniversary of winning the first Olympic women's hockey gold than to win gold once again in 2018.
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    Hey guys, anyone know where to go to stream the final and how much it is? I see the game is at 3:30 today. Iím in the US. Iíve heard different things, would love to hear from someone who actually did stream it previously.

    Add my name to the list that are frustrated by the lack of coverage. I appreciate the profiles, but I also tire of them. Wish there was a beat writer, analysis, wish the games were on tv. Maybe one day. Iím sure the selfie stick type social media is not aimed at me, and I donít care one way or another about it. But, doesnít the USA do it too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindsay View Post
    Hey guys, anyone know where to go to stream the final and how much it is? I see the game is at 3:30 today. Iím in the US. Iíve heard different things, would love to hear from someone who actually did stream it previously.
    From what I can tell you have to do it through Hockey TV, which $30 for 1 month, or $16.67 a month if you buy a year long subscription. Thatís a bit much. 🙁

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    Yep... ridiculous, isn't it? I'm not paying it.

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    Yep... ridiculous, isn't it? I'm not paying it.
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