POTUS 45.08: Suckers

[alfablue]

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People who think I'm chicken little can eff off, first of all as I need to get that off my chest. I was one of the few around here who even sniffed a chance at where we are at right now and it sickens me that I was even remotely correct. But I was f cking correct to be worried wasn't I? People who are not scared 5h!tless right now can go pound sand because it is a crisis unlike we've seen. People you know and love will suffer immeasurably because of trump. Not some poor dirt farmer in Afghanistan or some other remote place, and that's bad enough. People right here in the good old U S of A. You know where the country is really on the right track and it's just a matter of time before the positive change will begin happening. I'm not just sounding the alarm either, I go to work every day trying to make lives better for working class people, trying to fight for living wages, trying to make sure people do not suffer because of who they love or what door they walk through when they have to take a p!ss. But what I see every time I turn around is people believing everything will be all right and trying the same old things. So I continue to sound the alarm at the same time I try to make my little piece of the world a little more fair, a little more livable.

I certainly feel bad for those who didn't vote for him.

But I have a tough time feeling sorry for those who did- which looks to be a LOT of people being harmed. They knew what they were voting for.

We will be one of many liberals who will probably make out well with some of the policies. Still have the possibility of cuts hurting really badly, though.

[alfablue]

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Trumps gutting of the EPA alone makes Clinton infinitely better.

yup, to some of us who benefit via the EPA, that harms us rather greatly. By an infinite amount.

Why is it so hard to see so many people have highly skilled and high paying jobs because of the EPA?

(BTW, he's gutted nothing, so far, just reviewing what was done. Yet)

edit- sorry I originally misread BassAle's post, so I corrected mine a little)

[jerphisch]

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We report. You decide.

Anyone that can make it to the end of that deserves a prize. I think I made it about 1/3 through yesterday before I ran out of gas. Reading shouldn't be that exhausting.

[ScoobyDoo]

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I certainly feel bad for those who didn't vote for him.

But I have a tough time feeling sorry for those who did- which looks to be a LOT of people being harmed. They knew what they were voting for.

We will be one of many liberals who will probably make out well with some of the policies. Still have the possibility of cuts hurting really badly, though.

Sorry, but Susan Sarandon didn't vote for Trump and I don't feel any sympathy for her either.

[Jimjamesak]

Brent still doesn't get it.

I'm willing to give him a chance to say something to defend himself before saying anything myself.

I can go off of what he's said previously but I want to hear exactly why he thinks the two sides are equivalent.

[ScoobyDoo]

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but I want to hear exactly why he thinks the two sides are equivalent.

Ok, but he's been doing it since the fall before the election and refused to explain it in any other context then "it's not fair to be one sided. I'm Switzerland, look at me". So, good luck.

[BassAle]

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No, to some of us who benefit via the EPA, that harms us rather greatly. By an infinite amount.

Why is it so hard to see so many people have highly skilled and high paying jobs because of the EPA?

(BTW, he's gutted nothing, so far, just reviewing what was done. so that claim is not true at this point)

Well yes, his 40% cut in finding is merely a proposal right now, but he's already rolled back some EPA regulations via executive order, now prohibits the EPA from talking about climate change, rescinded a moratorium of mining for coal on federal lands, among other this. He hasn't killed the EPA yet, but if he does get his 40% cut it will devastating to our planet.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Well yes, his 40% cut in finding is merely a proposal right now, but he's already rolled back some EPA regulations via executive order, now prohibits the EPA from talking about climate change, rescinded a moratorium of mining for coal on federal lands, among other this. He hasn't killed the EPA yet, but if he does get his 40% cut it will devastating to our planet.

Even under Obama Flint had to sue to get their pipes replaced. That's an indication the EPA wasn't doing enough, or wasn't keeping their eye on the ball. I'm sure, now with the cuts they will be more focused.

http://www.ecowatch.com/michael-moor...882162388.html

When Gov. Snyder took office in 2011, one of the first things he did was to get a multi-billion dollar tax break passed by the Republican legislature for the wealthy and for corporations. But with less tax revenues, that meant he had to start cutting costs. So, many things—schools, pensions, welfare, safe drinking water—were slashed. Then he invoked an executive privilege to take over cities (all of them majority black) by firing the mayors and city councils whom the local people had elected, and installing his cronies to act as “dictators" over these cities. Their mission? Cut services to save money so he could give the rich even more breaks. That's where the idea of switching Flint to river water came from. To save $15 million! It was easy. Suspend democracy. Cut taxes for the rich. Make the poor drink toxic river water. And everybody's happy.

As long as that is the focus we're doomed. Doomed. And that focus is in control everywhere.

[rufus]

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I was mainly referring to voters. And the underlined strengthens my view on it.

Give me a break, Mr. False Equivalency.

The fact that you go out of your way to stress that you don't like Trump, but then bend over backwards to find no differences between him and the opposition strengthens my initial statement. A moderate wouldn't be doing that.

[Rover]

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Sorry, but Susan Sarandon didn't vote for Trump and I don't feel any sympathy for her either.

Bingo! Too much CYA with the "I didn't vote for him" crap. Did you vote FOR the person with the best chance to defeat him? If not, then too bad if you're horrified with what Trump is doing. You let it happen.

[alfablue]

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Well yes, his 40% cut in finding is merely a proposal right now, but he's already rolled back some EPA regulations via executive order, now prohibits the EPA from talking about climate change, rescinded a moratorium of mining for coal on federal lands, among other this. He hasn't killed the EPA yet, but if he does get his 40% cut it will devastating to our planet.

Yea, I get that- but given the people who plan on suing over his actions, he's got a long way to go.

I also don't see coal mining picking up just because of an order- it would have to pick up due to demand. That's like the reply that most drones say that lower taxes are job makers- which they are not. Demand for a product is a job maker. Lowering taxes just allows for more money to be made.

(BTW, sorry for not reading your original message- I got it very wrong).

[rufus]

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Ok, but he's been doing it since the fall before the election and refused to explain it in any other context then "it's not fair to be one sided. I'm Switzerland, look at me". So, good luck.

When one side is a rather bland, and beholden to Wall Street "more of the same" and the other is an egotistical, rampaging lunatic, then yeah, it is ok to be one-sided.

[French Rage]

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Anyone that can make it to the end of that deserves a prize. I think I made it about 1/3 through yesterday before I ran out of gas. Reading shouldn't be that exhausting.

I couldn't even make it past the first part.

[bronconick]

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We report. You decide.

My grandmother's early stage dementia was more coherent than that. She didn't have access to nuclear weapons, though.

[Kepler]

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Anyone that can make it to the end of that deserves a prize. I think I made it about 1/3 through yesterday before I ran out of gas. Reading shouldn't be that exhausting.

I'm really glad you said this because I felt guilty; I pegged out at about 2/3. It's a combination of banality, childish narcissism, and gibberish.