POTUS 45.08: Suckers

[BassAle]

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Yes, I'm a snowflake.

I just don't think it's wise to mention underage children in anything happening in regards to what his/her parents do because the kid has no choice in how close it gets to the process. Maybe Baron did tell Daddy Dearest his speech was the greatest ever, but it's not like there's much else he could say on the matter. Lumping the kid in with the others you did in that short list, it's clearly not meant as a complement to the child.

oh FFS, "clearly not meant as a complement to the child" ? It was a slam on the orange **** head saying only his family would have told him what a great speech it was, it was not an attack on his child. We aren't even allowed to mention his children's names now?

[GrinCDXX]

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Step in line with my views, or be burned at the stake. That's the translation I see.

And the pizza joint was BS, we all know it. Don't lump me in with those folks.

Did Bob Gray hack your account?

[ScoobyDoo]

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Step in line with my views, or be burned at the stake. That's the translation I see.

And the pizza joint was BS, we all know it. Don't lump me in with those folks.

Ok, Switzerland.

[The Rube]

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Ok, Switzerland.

And people wonder why there's a divide in politics. Obviously there is no possible way to try and take the best from "both sides" of the spectrum and find a compromise. Just a bunch of name-calling and assumption of views.

Have fun, folks, I'm outta here.

[ScoobyDoo]

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And people wonder why there's a divide in politics. Obviously there is no possible way to try and take the best from "both sides" of the spectrum and find a compromise. Just a bunch of name-calling and assumption of views.

Have fun, folks, I'm outta here.

You, like all of your ilk have failed to realize how far right we have drifted. The middle today is complete right wing pyschoville.

[Kepler]

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And people wonder why there's a divide in politics. Obviously there is no possible way to try and take the best from "both sides" of the spectrum and find a compromise. Just a bunch of name-calling and assumption of views.

Have fun, folks, I'm outta here.

Do me a personal favor and please stay. I like your inputs. I don't know why there's a current flamefest, but these things happen from time to time. It will cool down again.

[Kepler]

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You, like all of your ilk have failed to realize how far right we have drifted. The middle today is complete right wing pyschoville.

The mean has moved to the right, but the median is where it always was.

Think of our politics as a 2x2 matrix: right/left vs informed/ignorant. Let's calibrate the two axes such that there are roughly 25% in each quadrant. The ignorant right -- the people who get all their information from Fox and Rush and believe it -- has gone psychotic, yes. But the other three quadrants are where they always were.

If we can figure out how to ally the 3 quadrants of 75% against the fourth mentally ill quadrant we can solve most of this country's political problems. It's not simple: appealing to the left only gets you 50%, appealing to the informed only gets you 50%. But we can start with simple stuff like this: if you agree that Sandy Hook really happened and wasn't a false flag or fake news, take a step forward. Baby steps.

[ScoobyDoo]

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The mean has moved to the right, but the median is where it always was.

Think of our politics as a 2x2 matrix: right/left vs informed/ignorant. Let's calibrate the two axes such that there are roughly 25% in each quadrant. The ignorant right -- the people who get all their information from Fox and Rush and believe it -- has gone psychotic, yes. But the other three quadrants are where they always were.

If we can figure out how to ally the 3 quadrants of 75% against the fourth mentally ill quadrant we can solve most of this country's political problems. It's not simple: appealing to the left only gets you 50%, appealing to the informed only gets you 50%. But we can start with simple stuff like this: if you agree that Sandy Hook really happened and wasn't a false flag or fake news, take a step forward. Baby steps.

I don't think we can, cause we don't problem solve anymore. Although I did see this morning that Coons and Corker were doing some problem solving together on foreign aid. Problem is that 1% of the budget it a non-starter with Republicans and Trump and is easy street for agreement.

Get me new ideas on Health Care, Terrorism, and Immigration. Then we can talk. Otherwise I'm just going to scream and vilify the other side and those that don't take a side because that's what the Right does to me.


EDIT: I see orange boy is pussing out on the wall to keep the government open. Best thing for Democrats would be if the *******s shut it down over wall funding. A wall we were NEVER supposed to fund. And every article I read on the wall says it's a disaster. From giving up our river rights, to US Citizens actually having to live on the wrong side of it, to Native American land wanting nothing to do with it.

Nice work Repubs.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Ivanka got booed in Berlin today, deservedly so, when she said her dad was great for families.
I hope the Germans are prepping to be bombed.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Ivanka got booed in Berlin today, deservedly so, when she said her dad was great for families.
I hope the Germans are prepping to be bombed.

She obviously knows her dad Biblically, but not in the ways we know him.

[Handyman]

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She obviously knows her dad Biblically, but not in the ways we know him.

Last Week Tonight's segment on her was outstanding! I love how everyone thinks she is some moderate force against her Dad and yet everything she was supposedly going to soften him up on he has already destroyed.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Also he wants to tax Canadian lumber at 24% but refuses to accept their proposed dairy tax on us? God help us.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Also he wants to tax Canadian lumber at 24% but refuses to accept their proposed dairy tax on us? God help us.

My jaw hit the floor when he said Canada was being unfair. He's a walking contradiction. He's the worst case scenario for America and the planet.

[Kepler]

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Get me new ideas on Health Care, Terrorism, and Immigration.

I'm sure every possible plan, policy and procedure has been articulated already. The problem isn't ideas, it's working them through the political system in a way where it's not in a significant minority's interest to torpedo negotiations.

The politicians aren't the problem, they are responding rationally to their constituents. I would like to see leaders of the three rational quadrants form a coalition where they mutually agree not to attack each other and to defend one another against the attacks of the crazy quadrant. This has a hope of working now because the GOP is in power -- obviously it would be far more difficult with the Dems in power because then informed conservatives would be understandably suspicious of the Dem government's motives. What we can do now is craft compromise measures where the government stays open and addresses the most critical and immediate problems with compromise centrist solutions. This can be done in odd-numbered years (even-numbered years are elections so there's very little hope of working across the aisle).

I suggest we trial run it right here. If a few dozen hockey fans who are highly demographically homogeneous can't find solutions, the country as a whole probably can't, but if we can then maybe there's hope.

[Kepler]

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Reality 96 Trump 0

Donald Trump surrenders at the first sign of resistance. It’s his best quality.