The NCAA has stated a preference for off-campus, non home rink, sites.
If you bid with your home rink, you're rolling the dice that the local youth commission doesn't bid with the outdoor rink in the park (that has hillside "seating").
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This year the hosts would've been Denver, Duluth, Harvard, and Minnesota if the top four hosted.
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I think Sic is right. Notre Dame hosted because no one else bid an off-campus site. Since then I think North Dakota has taken the position they'd just as soon bid Fargo and Sioux Falls rather than bid Grand Forks and run the risk Xcel or some other off campus site bids.
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Yup, Notre Dame hosted at Compton because they were the only bid.
I suspect UND is throwing in a Scheels (Fargo)/Sanford ("Hawks" Falls) bid to ward off having to play a "regional" in the DECC or Baxter or Magness or ...
And it worked.
However, I'd bet UND threw in "2018 in Sanford" ... and "2018 in REA" just in case the NCAA had a fit of sanity.![]()
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You had me till your last sentence. I have some delectable cheese to serve you with that whine. Here's another one....build a bridge and get over yourself. The NCAA is trying to do a one-size fits all model for NCAA Championships. With regards to hockey, this serves the East a lot better than the West. It also means that there are more all-purpose arenas (read: neutral sites) in the East. Answer me this (not just you - all readers here) - are your college arenas that are all the perfect size for regionals used for anything other than college sports? For example - Agganis Arena is a popular concert venue here in Boston. Do concerts come to campus because that's where the venues are?
The West is always an issue because everything is so far apart. I don't even see what good putting the games on campus sites is going to do. And if they go back to including campus sites, they will have to be treated as neutral sites, meaning same number of allotted tickets that all the other schools get. And honestly, they shouldn't even get the benefit of staying if they make the tournament. But then, the crying will start all over again I suppose.
I'm going to be shocked if UND doesn't bid to host every single year in either Fargo or Sioux Falls, assuming they can sell out Sioux Falls like they do Fargo. They'd be crazy not to. Not only do they block any possibility of playing in the home rinks of Minnesota or Omaha or Duluth or Wisconsin, they basically block ever having to travel at all beyond the border of the Dakotas, since they are a host school.
I'd keep doing it until the NCAA changes their format. They're either going to have to get rid of the preference for off-campus sites, or get rid of the regional format once and for all. Sooner or later enough eastern schools will have to come out to the Dakotas to play a #3 or #4 seeded North Dakota to get a critical mass to change the system.
That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
Agganis is absolutely on BU's campus. It's surrounded by two BU dorms and BU's fitness facility. That said, it's not about whether the site is on the campus, it has to do with how many "home games" are played at the facility during the regular season that determines whether a rink considered a team's home rink for the purposes of NCAA tournament play. In basketball, Villanova got around this when the East regional was held in Philly at the Flyers/76ers arena (where VU usually plays 5-6 home games per year) by only scheduling three home games that season, below the NCAA's threshold, and were able to play in that region. They went back to scheduling 5-6 games there the following year. Dumb setup.
I agree this regional problem would be fixed by going on campus, but I do not agree the NCAA is simply catering to the eastern teams. If there aren't bids out west, absent making the rule changes we're advocating, they go with the sites they have.
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Sioux Falls is an interesting site. Both Mankato and St. Cloud are closer to Sioux Falls than Grand Forks is. If it works as a site, perhaps there could be a different host school in future years.
And it's a nice new building.
I was formerly a tasty 7-11 beverage. Now I'm a fan of defunct hockey teams.
Perhaps. However, North Dakota has the advantage of likely being able to sell out all available tickets to its champions club and guaranteeing a successful (at least monetarily) regional well in advance of the NCAA Tournament. If there is no guarantee that North Dakota is going to Sioux Falls, I doubt that the regional would sell out unless the right group of teams were placed in the regional. Plus, Chris Semrau (Assistant G.M. at the Sanford Center in Sioux Falls) is the former events director at the Ralph and has many connections with UND.
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About a year ago, I asked rhetorically if the East should handle all 4 regionals. A small part of me was serious, in that would be one way to make the currently arrangement actually work -- meaning 4 neutral sites that can attract a critical mass of fans. But mostly I was hoping to get widespread agreement that such a thing would be inherently unfair. Simply unthinkable.
Well, we're now half way to the "unthinkable" solution. And when people get sick of traveling to the Dakotas and giving UND a "home state" advantage every year...
Next Point: For those claiming that the only problem is that Westerners are refusing to bid: Please just stop. Bids aren't coming because responsible planners are refusing to get on a sinking ship. Instructing people to act like lemmings is no answer at all.
More soon.
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