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    The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    If you would like to catch up...

    Original Thread (covering Februay 11, 2011 - April 16, 2012):

    http://board.uscho.com/showthread.ph...-All-Time-1-58

    Second Thread (covering April 16, 2012 - April 14, 2017):

    http://board.uscho.com/showthread.ph...-All-Time-1-59
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    I'm almost done with doing the triple-double check of the information. Thus far, I've found 2 errors that were updated: (1) Wisconsin's NCAA Tournament W-L-T Record updated to 40-23-2 (increase win total by 1, decrease loss total by 1); and (2) Massachusetts Lowell's NCAA Tournament W-L-T Record updated to 7-7-1 (pre-2017 NCAA Tournament; decrease win total by 1, increase loss total by 1). As a result, Wisconsin's and Lowell's point total increases from 2015-2016 will be a bit different than they otherwise would have.

    For the volunteers who will be drafting the season summaries, please prepare the summaries for your teams by the following deadlines:

    For teams ranked #60-51 last season, please prepare by May 1, 2017;
    For teams ranked #50-41 last season, please prepare by May 15, 2017;
    For teams ranked #40-31 last season, please prepare by May 29, 2017;
    For teams ranked #30-21 last season, please prepare by June 12, 2017;
    For teams ranked #20-11 last season, please prepare by June 26, 2017; and
    For teams ranked #10-1 last season, please prepare by July 10, 2017.

    For example, if you were to prepare the B1G teams, you would have Penn State ready by May 1, 2017; Ohio State ready by May 29, 2017; and Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan State ready by July 10, 2017.

    For ease of access, here are the rankings from the end of 2015-2016:

    1. North Dakota
    2. Michigan
    3. Minnesota
    4. Boston College
    5. Boston University
    6. Denver
    7. Wisconsin
    8. Michigan State
    9. Maine
    10. Michigan Tech
    11. Cornell
    12. Lake Superior State
    13. Colorado College
    14. Harvard
    15. Clarkson
    16. Minnesota Duluth
    17. RPI
    18. New Hampshire
    19. Providence
    20. Bowling Green
    21. Northern Michigan
    22. Yale
    23. St. Lawrence
    24. Union
    25. Miami
    26. Quinnipiac
    27. Notre Dame
    28. Dartmouth
    29. Ferris State
    30. Colgate
    31. St. Cloud State
    32. Northeastern
    33. Brown
    34. UMASS Lowell
    35. Ohio State
    36. Vermont
    37. Bemidji State
    38. RIT
    39. Nebraska Omaha
    40. Mankato
    41. Western Michigan
    42. Niagara
    43. Princeton
    44. Air Force
    45. Alaska Anchorage
    46. Merrimack
    47. Holy Cross
    48. Mercyhurst
    49. Alaska
    50. UMASS
    51. Alabama Huntsville
    52. Robert Morris
    53. Army
    54. Canisius
    55. UCONN
    56. Penn State
    57. Sacred Heart
    58. American International
    59. Bentley
    60. Arizona State

    Thus far, I have the following volunteers:
    ECAC - drshoen
    Hockey East - UML Puck Hawk
    NCHC - SFIS
    WCHA - gfmorris/Shirtless Guy

    That means I still need volunteers for the Big Ten and Atlantic Hockey.
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    sounds good
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Question:
    Is this a raw accumulation of scoring points,
    or,
    Is this per annum (i.e. total accumulated points / years of DI program)?
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Question:
    Is this a raw accumulation of scoring points,
    or,
    Is this per annum (i.e. total accumulated points / years of DI program)?
    The original thread contains a lot more detail, but to answer your question, it is closest to a raw accumulation of scoring points. There is no division by number of games/years a program has played.
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    Done by Bastille Day? Impressive!
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleRay View Post
    Done by Bastille Day? Impressive!
    Assuming I get timely volunteers, there is a decent chance. Still need volunteers to do the Big Ten and Atlantic Hockey program season summaries (i.e. 2-3 sentences about each program's 2016-2017 season and maybe a sentence about their 2017-2018 prospects).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Assuming I get timely volunteers, there is a decent chance. Still need volunteers to do the Big Ten and Atlantic Hockey program season summaries (i.e. 2-3 sentences about each program's 2016-2017 season and maybe a sentence about their 2017-2018 prospects).
    If Blitz from the Atlantic Hockey thread does not step up, I can cover the 11 AHC teams, as I saw all of them play this past season.

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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    If Blitz from the Atlantic Hockey thread does not step up, I can cover the 11 AHC teams, as I saw all of them play this past season.
    That would be a huge help. I'll pencil you in for the Atlantic Hockey teams. All that leaves is the Big Ten conference. Any takers?
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Big question is whether Sun Devils accumulated enough points this season to lift themselves out of the basement.

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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    Big question is whether Sun Devils accumulated enough points this season to lift themselves out of the basement.
    Unlikely, but beating RPI should give them a bump compared to the rest of the basement
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Quote Originally Posted by UML Puck Hawk View Post
    Unlikely, but beating RPI should give them a bump compared to the rest of the basement
    I was not trying to be entirely facetious. But, the Sun Devils ended up ranked 44th in the PWR this past season, with a 8-19-3 record against Div 1 teams (for some reason USCHO gives them an additional two wins against Div 3 SNHU for a 10-19-3 record in the overall Div 1 standings). Those eight wins included upsets over ranked Air Force and Quinnipiac teams, besides six wins against fellow bottom feeders (Colgate, RPI, UNH, AIC, UMass(2)); five of their eight wins were on the road, including Quinnipiac. At the end of last season they had accumulated 0.0114 points, but Bentley and AIC have only accumulated 0.05806 and 0.06851 points, respectively, in over two decades of Div 1 play.

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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    I was not trying to be entirely facetious. But, the Sun Devils ended up ranked 44th in the PWR this past season, with a 8-19-3 record against Div 1 teams (for some reason USCHO gives them an additional two wins against Div 3 SNHU for a 10-19-3 record in the overall Div 1 standings). Those eight wins included upsets over ranked Air Force and Quinnipiac teams, besides six wins against fellow bottom feeders (Colgate, RPI, UNH, AIC, UMass(2)); five of their eight wins were on the road, including Quinnipiac. At the end of last season they had accumulated 0.0114 points, but Bentley and AIC have only accumulated 0.05806 and 0.06851 points, respectively, in over two decades of Div 1 play.
    I believe beating RPI gives them a fairly large boost, since additional weight is given to beating past national champs. We usually see that bump mentioned when a first time champ is crowned, as it results in a bump for the entire conference.
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Quote Originally Posted by UML Puck Hawk View Post
    I believe beating RPI gives them a fairly large boost, since additional weight is given to beating past national champs. We usually see that bump mentioned when a first time champ is crowned, as it results in a bump for the entire conference.
    There should also be additional value given to beating a team that made the NCAA tournament (Air Force).
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    Quote Originally Posted by UML Puck Hawk View Post
    I believe beating RPI gives them a fairly large boost, since additional weight is given to beating past national champs. We usually see that bump mentioned when a first time champ is crowned, as it results in a bump for the entire conference.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    There should also be additional value given to beating a team that made the NCAA tournament (Air Force).
    I don't know if I would classify one win against a past national champion as giving a team a "fairly large boost," but it certainly does help. It also helps playing a stronger schedule (including knocking off a Regional Finalist). All that being said, I doubt Arizona State did enough to move out of the cellar. I guess we'll find out though.
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Thanks again to everyone who has volunteered to write up their conferences/teams season summaries. I still don't have a volunteer to do the Big Ten teams. If anyone is interested, please let me know by this Saturday (4/29). Otherwise, I will do the write-ups, which may delay the reveal of the list a bit.

    Here are the volunteers thus far:
    Atlantic Hockey - Snively65
    ECAC - drshoen
    Hockey East/Notre Dame - UML Puck Hawk
    NCHC - SFIS
    WCHA - gfmorris/Shirtless Guy

    Please prepare the summaries for your teams and email/PM me by the following deadlines (based on last year's rankings):

    May 1, 2017:
    Atlantic Hockey - Bentley, American International, Sacred Heart, Canisius, Army, and Robert Morris
    Hockey East - Connecticut
    Big Ten - Penn State
    WCHA - Alabama Huntsville

    May 15, 2017:
    Atlantic Hockey - Mercyhurst, Holy Cross, Air Force, and Niagara
    ECAC - Princeton
    Hockey East - Massachusetts and Merrimack
    NCHC - Western Michigan
    WCHA - Alaska and Alaska Anchorage

    May 29, 2017:
    Atlantic Hockey - RIT
    Big Ten - Ohio State
    ECAC - Brown
    Hockey East - Vermont, Massachusetts Lowell, and Northeastern
    NCHC - Nebraska Omaha and St. Cloud State
    WCHA - Minnesota State and Bemidji State

    June 12, 2017:
    ECAC - Colgate, Dartmouth, Quinnipiac, Union, St. Lawrence, and Yale
    Hockey East/Notre Dame - Notre Dame
    NCHC - Miami
    WCHA - Ferris State and Northern Michigan

    June 26, 2017:
    ECAC - RPI, Clarkson, Harvard, and Cornell
    Hockey East - Providence and New Hampshire
    NCHC - Minnesota Duluth and Colorado College
    WCHA - Bowling Green and LSSU

    July 10, 2017:
    Big Ten - Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan
    Hockey East - Maine, Boston University, and Boston College
    NCHC - Denver and North Dakota
    WCHA - Michigan Tech

    This will likely allow the completion of the list by the end of July. See last year's reveal (in the previous thread) for examples on what I'm looking for (i.e. 2-3 sentences about the program's 2016-2017 season, and a sentence or so outlook to the 2017-2018 season).

    I have completed the data entry for the 2016-2017 season along with the triple-double check. #60 will be posted on Monday (5/1), with remaining teams posted every 1-3 days (assuming I receive season summaries in time).

    Once again, thank you to the volunteers. You make this job significantly easier for me, and more enjoyable for everyone who reads this thread.
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Thanks for spoiling the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Thanks for spoiling the list.
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siouxfaninseattle View Post
    I will do B1G if no one wants to.
    That would be great. I will add you for their summaries, and remember that UML Puck Hawk will do Notre Dame's summary. Please send over Penn State's summary ASAP.

    I have received the May 1st summaries from Snively65. Thank you for sending those in. I am still waiting on UML Puck Hawk (UCONN) and gfmorris/Shirtless Guy (Alabama Huntsville). Once I receive all the May 1st summaries, I will begin unveiling the rankings.
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