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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Traditional west/midwest bids would be somewhere in Minnesota and Michigan. Are venues in those states putting in bids? Is there something scaring off potential bidders?
    Yes, to both of your questions. Also, the NCAA has been scared off by some of the bidders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Traditional west/midwest bids would be somewhere in Minnesota and Michigan. Are venues in those states putting in bids? Is there something scaring off potential bidders?
    I wonder if the the Xcel Engery Center cost to much for the University of Minnesota. I am guessing it cost more to use that arena compared to arena that holds around 10,000.

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    Re: Future Frozen Four sites

    1You can't host on campus

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    So Air Force could host the east regional in denver?
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    You obviously didn't know that Grand Forks was the inspiration for The Stuff That Dreams Are Made Of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia View Post
    I wonder if the the Xcel Engery Center cost to much for the University of Minnesota. I am guessing it cost more to use that arena compared to arena that holds around 10,000.
    I think that has more to do with the frozen four next year and final four the year after so Minn didn't bid this round.

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    I read they bid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    I read they bid.
    Must have been for an on-campus regional. Schlossman reported that there were no other off-campus bids in the West and Midwest outside of Sioux Falls/Fargo and Allentown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    1-0 OT. I think there were all of 300 people there.
    I was there. There was way more than 300 people.

    Official attendance was listed at 3,887. Rochester has a large number of Clarkson alumni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Last time we were a #1 seed.
    Rochester was far from a good venue. I don't know if it was the 2pm start on Friday, the fact that we completely outplayed UMass but couldn't score, or the fact that the "facelift" that they put on the Blue Cross Arena wasn't even lipstick on a pig. The pregame at the Dinosaur BBQ was worth it though. Rochester, Syracuse, and Albany all have arenas capable of hosting regionals but they seem to have gravitated the east regional toward New England. Bridgeport is at least a nice arena, even if the Islanders play there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Must have been for an on-campus regional. Schlossman reported that there were no other off-campus bids in the West and Midwest outside of Sioux Falls/Fargo and Allentown.
    Could be. But it would be the first time they haven't bid in decades then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Must have been for an on-campus regional. Schlossman reported that there were no other off-campus bids in the West and Midwest outside of Sioux Falls/Fargo and Allentown.
    I've read multiple reports that the Penn State/Allentown bid was the only bid submitted at all for the Midwest regional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tape View Post
    I've read multiple reports that the Penn State/Allentown bid was the only bid submitted at all for the Midwest regional.
    Thanks, that's what I was assuming then. Can't force traditional places like Minnesota and Michigan to host if they don't want to. So maybe what needs to be looked at is why these other places aren't bidding. What can be done to make them more likely to bid etc

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    Re: Future Frozen Four sites

    The obvious answer is there are not enough appropriately sized neutral venues close enough to the schools that would host.

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    Then we either go forward with North Dakota trying to host every year and Pennsylvania being the "midwest" or the system gets an overhaul. Which is more likely?

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    Then we either go forward with North Dakota trying to host every year and Pennsylvania being the "midwest" or the system gets an overhaul. Which is more likely?
    The former.

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    Then we either go forward with North Dakota trying to host every year and Pennsylvania being the "midwest" or the system gets an overhaul. Which is more likely?
    It'll take awhile, but eventually I think we'll see the latter win out.

    It's happening right now with the conference tournaments. At some point I expect the NCHC to go the way of the WCHA and B1G and go on-campus.

    People are not going to travel great distances to see their team play in a regional. It's expensive. It's on tv, or streaming. It's short notice.

    Regionals work in the densely populated Northeast where a large number of the teams are located within a half day's drive of every possible regional site, but it won't work for everyone west of Penn State.
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    Then we either go forward with North Dakota trying to host every year and Pennsylvania being the "midwest" or the system gets an overhaul. Which is more likely?
    Well I think the rules need to change and the NCAA needs to expect less $ to allow other venues to host.

    Here is my breakdown of neutral venues:
    CO: Denver, Loveland
    ND: Fargo
    SD: Sioux Falls, Rapid City
    NE: Omaha, Ralston, Lincoln, Kearney
    MN: St Paul, Theif River Falls, Minneapolis
    IA: Sioux City, Waterloo, Des Moines, Urbandale, Dubuque, Cedar Rapids
    WI: Madison, Green Bay, Milwaukee, Milwaukee
    MO: St Louis, Independence
    IL: Moline, Rockford, Rosemont, Bloomington, Chicago
    MI: Kalamazoo, Muskegon, Grand Rapids, Plymouth, Saginaw, Flint, Detroit
    OH: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Columbus, Youngstown
    IN: Indianapolis, Fort Wayne
    PA (Apparently): Johnstown, Reading, Allentown, Hershey, Wilke-Barre, Erie, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia
    WV: Wheeling

    Did I miss anything? Now how many of those are near a university?

    EDITS: Updated to reflect building I previously listed that are below the 5000 capacity requirement (struck through) and changed the "too big" arenas to underlined.
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    Re: Future Frozen Four sites

    Why not just open up on campus locations? Much more appropriately sized.

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