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  • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

    Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
    No doubt but it looks like Barr is a good recruiter although prior asiistants were also credited. Jury out on Smith.
    You are like a woman scorned since you won't be able to blow SA anymore.....

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    • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

      Today is 13 April 2017. There are 171 days until RPI's next game.


      This is based upon 1 October 2017 for the start of next season.
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      • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

        Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
        This is a good point. Of course Lee hired a firm with no hockey expertise and ended up hiring a guy with almost an identical winning % from a lesser league. Bad process.
        To be fair, what firm would you have hired if you were instructed to outsource the search?

        Also, how do we know the winning percentage wasn't a result of the league? Some thrive as the big fish in a small pond, some need "maneuvering room" (pun intended). Also, some strategies work against some teams and don't work vs. others, case in point our seeming ease of playing Yale in Appert's "hey-day" (if you can call it that), coupled with the difficulty of facing Cornell.

        Also, I don't blame them for picking who they did on the basis of being a HC veteran.

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        • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

          Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
          No doubt but it looks like Barr is a good recruiter although prior asiistants were also credited. Jury out on Smith.
          Last I checked, we weren't hiring a recruiter; we were hiring a coach. The last guy could recruit, but couldn't coach.

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          • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
            To be fair, what firm would you have hired if you were instructed to outsource the search?

            Also, how do we know the winning percentage wasn't a result of the league? Some thrive as the big fish in a small pond, some need "maneuvering room" (pun intended). Also, some strategies work against some teams and don't work vs. others, case in point our seeming ease of playing Yale in Appert's "hey-day" (if you can call it that), coupled with the difficulty of facing Cornell.

            Also, I don't blame them for picking who they did on the basis of being a HC veteran.
            I wouldnt have hired a firm, I would have surrounded myself with hockey people like the alumni who wanted to be a part of it but were shut out.
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            • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
              Last I checked, we weren't hiring a recruiter; we were hiring a coach. The last guy could recruit, but couldn't coach.
              You talk about strategy, there is very little strategy in hockey, there are systems. Best team that walks off the bus usually wins; that's the role of recruiting. Basically it's everything.
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              • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                Originally posted by Stay@homeDad View Post
                You are like a woman scorned since you won't be able to blow SA anymore.....
                Post of the year. How don't you get banned. let play golf at Fairways next week.
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                • Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                  You talk about strategy, there is very little strategy in hockey, there are systems. Best team that walks off the bus usually wins; that's the role of recruiting. Basically it's everything.
                  Which is what is wrong with hockey today. Too many systems, too much micromanagement. We're stifling creativity.

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                  • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Which is what is wrong with hockey today. Too many systems, too much micromanagement. We're stifling creativity.
                    I have one goal -- at the end of the game scoring one more goal than you.


                    Either too many systems or the wrong ones implemented especially at the wrong time.

                    Let them play

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                    • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

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                        COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — Quinnipiac coach Rand Pecknold and former Rensselaer coach Seth Appert have been added to the Team USA coaching staff for the upcoming World Championship, May 5-21 in Germany and Paris. http://www.collegehockeynews.com/new...t-Added-to.php
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                          • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                            Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                            No problem, Pizza in Troy is horrid.
                            Does anyone remember Papa Leo's? Horrible!
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                            • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                              Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                              I wouldnt have hired a firm, I would have surrounded myself with hockey people like the alumni who wanted to be a part of it but were shut out.
                              And if what the AD said is factual and there is no reason not to believe him, who of amongst this group of Alumni would have had the time to fact check the 170 coaches that applied? So a firm was used that didn't have a background in hockey so what. They didn't hire the coach. Based on that logic then the AD shouldn't have hired the coach because he doesn't have a background in hockey.

                              Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                              You talk about strategy, there is very little strategy in hockey, there are systems. Best team that walks off the bus usually wins; that's the role of recruiting. Basically it's everything.
                              You can assemble the best talent in the world and without proper coaching you won't win. People keep talking about Ben Barr like he's the second coming. He's good at recruiting but can he coach? Has no experience as a Head Coach so maybe he should stop being a recruiter and go and be a head coach. That's what Jim Montgomery did and look where he is today. As for systems, that's what's ruining hockey, too many systems. Let the players play. And strategy can be used in games coaches need to know how to coach in order to employ it. Systems are just a weigh of stifling creativity. You don't need to develop players skills when all you are doing is employing a TRAP or LEFT WING Lock like RPI did this year.

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                              • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                                If recruiting is basically everything was Seth bad because his recruits won 8 games?
                                If recruiting is basically everything why do they have coaches behind the benches every game?

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