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  • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

    Originally posted by Havasu M View Post
    If recruiting is basically everything was Seth bad because his recruits won 8 games?
    If recruiting is basically everything why do they have coaches behind the benches every game?
    Nobody wants to go to RPI and its hard to get in.
    "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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    • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

      Originally posted by Noresmen View Post
      And if what the AD said is factual and there is no reason not to believe him, who of amongst this group of Alumni would have had the time to fact check the 170 coaches that applied? So a firm was used that didn't have a background in hockey so what. They didn't hire the coach. Based on that logic then the AD shouldn't have hired the coach because he doesn't have a background in hockey.



      You can assemble the best talent in the world and without proper coaching you won't win. People keep talking about Ben Barr like he's the second coming. He's good at recruiting but can he coach? Has no experience as a Head Coach so maybe he should stop being a recruiter and go and be a head coach. That's what Jim Montgomery did and look where he is today. As for systems, that's what's ruining hockey, too many systems. Let the players play. And strategy can be used in games coaches need to know how to coach in order to employ it. Systems are just a weigh of stifling creativity. You don't need to develop players skills when all you are doing is employing a TRAP or LEFT WING Lock like RPI did this year.
      Nothing Lee said was factual. It looks like he spent 60-90k to check credentials. There's a thing called google, you may want to try it. No comparing Denver and RPI.
      "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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      • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

        Don't disagree on trap and LWL. Blame Lemaire and Bowman.
        "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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        • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

          Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
          No problem, Pizza in Troy is horrid.
          Red Front is good.
          "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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          • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

            Originally posted by turk181 View Post
            COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — Quinnipiac coach Rand Pecknold and former Rensselaer coach Seth Appert have been added to the Team USA coaching staff for the upcoming World Championship, May 5-21 in Germany and Paris. http://www.collegehockeynews.com/new...t-Added-to.php
            Congrats Apps. Offsets Blashill's baldness.
            "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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            • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

              Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
              Congrats Apps. Offsets Blashill's baldness.
              Hey, hey.....com on now.
              Brandon Pirri: Turk would give it to Jagr. That's awesome! Jagr's untouchable. And he would give it to Jagr.

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              • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                Red Front is good.
                Well I haven't eaten there in over 40 years, but I didn't like it back then.
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                • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                  Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                  I wouldnt have hired a firm, I would have surrounded myself with hockey people like the alumni who wanted to be a part of it but were shut out.
                  And where would you find the HR time to hire them for a temporary position and interview them to ensure their goals aligned with the goals of those running the business of RPI?

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                  • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                    Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                    You talk about strategy, there is very little strategy in hockey, there are systems. Best team that walks off the bus usually wins; that's the role of recruiting. Basically it's everything.
                    Then why didn't we get to the Frozen Four in 08-09 or 09-10? After all, we had top recruiting classes those years...

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                    • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                      Originally posted by Noresmen View Post
                      And if what the AD said is factual and there is no reason not to believe him, who of amongst this group of Alumni would have had the time to fact check the 170 coaches that applied? So a firm was used that didn't have a background in hockey so what. They didn't hire the coach. Based on that logic then the AD shouldn't have hired the coach because he doesn't have a background in hockey.



                      You can assemble the best talent in the world and without proper coaching you won't win. People keep talking about Ben Barr like he's the second coming. He's good at recruiting but can he coach? Has no experience as a Head Coach so maybe he should stop being a recruiter and go and be a head coach. That's what Jim Montgomery did and look where he is today. As for systems, that's what's ruining hockey, too many systems. Let the players play. And strategy can be used in games coaches need to know how to coach in order to employ it. Systems are just a weigh of stifling creativity. You don't need to develop players skills when all you are doing is employing a TRAP or LEFT WING Lock like RPI did this year.
                      If you're going to do something for any sport, you have to start somewhere...

                      The ultimate strategy is to take the talent you have and use it to evolve the team. Sure, there will always be fundamentals, such as positional formations, and coaches will sometimes use systems to help keep the players focused. Beyond that, how do you create lane openings? How do you protect and advance the puck? How do you keep your opposition on the perimeter or get them to turn over the puck? That is why systems cannot be rigid. Sure, it's easy for the coach, but you do a disservice to the player's talents by keeping them rigid. And when the systems start to fail, you begin to tweak it to better the team as a whole, instead of continuing to push what doesn't work and frustrate the players into desperation to seem like they're playing for the name on the back, which is something I saw from the Appert years A LOT.

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                      • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                        Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                        Nothing Lee said was factual. It looks like he spent 60-90k to check credentials. There's a thing called google, you may want to try it. No comparing Denver and RPI.
                        Do you have any specifics as to quotations that weren't factual? Just because specific people weren't involved and a specific person wasn't hired does not call for being butthurt. I don't like this administration any more than you, but I don't see what they did here that was wrong.

                        As for "searching", 170 coaches would mean 170 effective hours to obtain and consolidate the information. Not to mention, they also assisted with receiving and processing applications, and possibly also "recruiting" on their own, as you have to get the word out somehow.

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                        • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                          Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                          Post of the year. How don't you get banned. let play golf at Fairways next week.
                          Fairways is an excellent course. Make sure you try some of the beer they brew onsite as well. Top notch stuff.
                          Loyality means sticking with a thing in good and bad times. Not willing to do that, stay home, I got this.

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                          • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                            Who gave FlagDude coffee today? Dude is on a tear with facts and arguments with people.
                            Loyality means sticking with a thing in good and bad times. Not willing to do that, stay home, I got this.

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                            • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                              Originally posted by fishcore12 View Post
                              Fairways is an excellent course. Make sure you try some of the beer they brew onsite as well. Top notch stuff.
                              Bruce the owner is a great guy.
                              "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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                              • Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                but I don't see what they did here that was wrong.
                                How bout hiring a guy with a .444 winning % from a lesser league
                                "Rick not want to be know as tough guy, Rick want to be known as team guy" Rick "Mongo" Bennett

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