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    I am all in favor of continuing the Autism awareness game. I would note the game last season did not meet the expectations of a game expected to take these folks into consideration. The time keeper hit the horn more than a few times and the place was overall noisier than it should have been. The goal is to reduce the level of stimulation so people in the autistic spectrum can feel comfortable attending these games. It seemed in last season's game, the attention to adhering to the goals was secondary. We can and should do better.

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    Blog post by Ken Schott about Jewell:
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    Re: RPI 2017 Off-Season (Part II): Mr. Smith Goes to Troy

    Today is 17 June 2017. There are 105 days (15 weeks) until RPI's next game.


    This is based upon 30 September 2017 for the start of next season.

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    I am all in favor of continuing the Autism awareness game. I would note the game last season did not meet the expectations of a game expected to take these folks into consideration. The time keeper hit the horn more than a few times and the place was overall noisier than it should have been. The goal is to reduce the level of stimulation so people in the autistic spectrum can feel comfortable attending these games. It seemed in last season's game, the attention to adhering to the goals was secondary. We can and should do better.
    As much the venue is attempting to be as accommodating as possible, there's only so much that can be done. There wasn't piped or band-played music (aside from anthems). There wasn't a goal horn. The PA system wasn't as loud. Those are things you can control, while remaining within the confines of NCAA rules and not disrupting the general flow of the game. There has to be a clock horn, along with a backup, as per rule 4.1. They need that to signal the end of the period, as well as get the referee's attention when there's a problem, the latter of which I'm sure you're referring to. You're going to have people attend the game (otherwise how do you raise money for autism awareness), and they're going to cheer and/or jeer; you're not going to haul them out for making a loud noise. At least one anthem must happen, as per rule 82. Aside from protocol because the game comes first, they did everything they could and made it a nice environment.
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    I based my observation on the previous year's game where it seemed the noise level was lower and the lighting was dimmed where possible. I really felt there was a clear difference between the two games I see what you mean about the rules requiring the horn at the end of the period and to notify the ref of a problem, but it can be done in such a way as to limit the noise as much as possible. I think you should walk away from such a game feeling that the game was clearly different from other games and I did not feel that way. I also think it would not hurt to put signs up in the scorers' booth and as folks enter the HFH reminding them of what the game is all about and encouraging cooperation with the spirit of the game. After all it is only 1 game. Everyone should ask themselves : would someone who has a very hard time with noise, bright lights, etc feel comfortable by the effort being undertaken?

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    From the on-line directory

    Daniel M. Jewell
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    email: xxxxxx@rpi.edu
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    We still don't know who the recruits are, but if anyone wants to guess which numbers they will get, these are the numbers which the possible recruits wore last season:

    55 Cory Babichuk probably 2018
    25 Jaren Burke *
    20 Austin Cho probably no longer a recruit
    3 Mat Harris * number taken
    27 Billy Jerry
    33 Linden Marshall *
    98 Emil Ohrvall #
    9 Gavin Payne * number taken
    28 Jon Richards * number taken
    26 Owen Stout * number taken
    5 Atte Tuliara number taken
    9 Troy York number taken

    * In the RPI directory
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    Today is 18 June 2017. There are 104 days until RPI's next game.


    This is based upon 30 September 2017 for the start of next season.

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    Not in love with delaying the Freakout game until the last home game (in fact last game of the regular season). I had always considered it to be a momentum builder for the team and way back, before SA down played the game, I know many of the players felt it did just that. If it has become so insignificant, then perhaps it is time to retire another great RPI tradition as had happened to the Holiday Tournament. No Tournament mid season, no Freakout excitement, no ECAC playoffs for an RPI team in too many years to count, it is getting harder and harder to recall just what a storied and nationally prominent program this had been. Just an old fan of 54 years opinion.
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    Not in love with delaying the Freakout game until the last home game (in fact last game of the regular season). I had always considered it to be a momentum builder for the team and way back, before SA down played the game, I know many of the players felt it did just that. If it has become so insignificant, then perhaps it is time to retire another great RPI tradition as had happened to the Holiday Tournament. No Tournament mid season, no Freakout excitement, no ECAC playoffs for an RPI team in too many years to count, it is getting harder and harder to recall just what a storied and nationally prominent program this had been. Just an old fan of 54 years opinion.
    Doc, take a look at the schedule. When else were they going to do it? As much as I understand your concerns about when they do it, there is no other Saturday. I'm just surprised the league didn't try to force it to be vs. Cornell...
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    Doc, take a look at the schedule. When else were they going to do it? As much as I understand your concerns about when they do it, there is no other Saturday. I'm just surprised the league didn't try to force it to be vs. Cornell...
    Dude: Any other date would have been better in my eyes even if it was as early as November. The purpose of the game is lost when it is the last game and combined with some other event like Senior Night which should stand alone as a tribute to the boys who have been there for up to four years. As everyone knows, I am big on the tradition of this program and still bemoan the fact that the administration and the previous coaching staff altered that. Being involved for as long as we have, we have seen the changes as they all have happened and not happy about most of them. Your point is valid that there are few possibilities but still, this is the worst of the choices.
    Which should be more of a tradition, Autism night or Big Red Freakout or Black Friday? We just do not like the trend we have seen over the past 10 years. We remain loyal fans and supportive of the boys but have a bad feeling about the recent past are are just hopeful that improves soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Doc, take a look at the schedule. When else were they going to do it? As much as I understand your concerns about when they do it, there is no other Saturday. I'm just surprised the league didn't try to force it to be vs. Cornell...
    I believe this is where a HC has to vigilant with the League when it comes to the schedule. Hopefully next year after Coach Smith has more time under his belt in the ECAC this will be the case. The last game of the regular season is not the ideal time for BRF, as Doc noted.

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    Speaking about our tradition https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst...ey-fans/13283/.

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    Dude: Any other date would have been better in my eyes even if it was as early as November. The purpose of the game is lost when it is the last game and combined with some other event like Senior Night which should stand alone as a tribute to the boys who have been there for up to four years. As everyone knows, I am big on the tradition of this program and still bemoan the fact that the administration and the previous coaching staff altered that. Being involved for as long as we have, we have seen the changes as they all have happened and not happy about most of them. Your point is valid that there are few possibilities but still, this is the worst of the choices.
    Which should be more of a tradition, Autism night or Big Red Freakout or Black Friday? We just do not like the trend we have seen over the past 10 years. We remain loyal fans and supportive of the boys but have a bad feeling about the recent past are are just hopeful that improves soon.
    If we want to build momentum, isn't January the best time? Black Friday is already a first half momentum builder.

    Also, one game that destroys our league schedule is the Mayor's Cup. With Albany no longer having an AHL team, why do we even play this anymore?
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    Just throwing my couple of pennies in:
    First, Freakout! Dr. D is right (as usual). Here would be my suggestion: why not play the game against Dartmouth? I know it's a Friday, but it is the only game of the weekend and they have played the Black Friday game on Saturday (like this year for example) so why not Freakout Friday?
    Second, the Mayor's Cup. FD is 100% spot on on this one. Why even bother playing this game? I live 20 minutes from the TU Center and I won't even go to the game and I know many of my fellow season ticket holders agree with me on this one. Create an ice rink for one night? Really.
    Third, Autism Night. I spoke with Coach Smith about this at the meet the coach party and he said they will be having some game involving a charity, but wouldn't specifically mention Autism. There may be some other charity in mind. Guess we will have to stay tuned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    If we want to build momentum, isn't January the best time? Black Friday is already a first half momentum builder.

    Also, one game that destroys our league schedule is the Mayor's Cup. With Albany no longer having an AHL team, why do we even play this anymore?
    I'd be happy with any game earlier that what is scheduled right now. In my mind, the earlier the better. Teams need something to rally around, to bond together for. Call it anything you want. Freakout, Black Monday, whatever floats your boat. But this is a 34+ game season and to schedule what is arguably the biggest draw of the season for the fans, the team, the school as the 34th game of the season borders on the absurd. But then again, their have been a lot of absurd and ridiculous things that have happened that have fed this downward spiral that was once one of the proud premier programs. When i first applied to RPI back in the early 1960's, my guidance counselor related to me a number of things about the school. First he told me that there were no easy courses and even physical education was tough. Second he told me that for some reason this little school in upstate NY seemed to win or compete for the NCAA hockey championship fairly often. Today I cannot really comment on the former comment *** i am not familiar with the curriculum. But I can certainly state clearly that the second statement is so far back in history that most students (and perhaps a good percentage of the faculty) cannot relate to it.
    I have high hopes for the boys for this coming year (as i always do). I am hopeful for our new coach and hope that even with small steps can return this program gradually (actually I hope more rapidly than that) into the top 1/2 of the NCAA rankings. Just my 2
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    Today is 19 June 2017. There are 103 days until RPI's next game.


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    Heck, even Black Friday no longer has a meaning. Because of the gap for the Mayor's Cup, along with their finals schedule, we're now pretty much forced to play Union first. Talk about a waste of revenue, especially if it's going to be a premium priced game, and they're going to subsidize the tickets for the students because of Black Insert-day-of-week-here (at least they did that when I was there). And then for "homecoming", which is heavily advertised by the 'tute (heck I received mailers last month about it), what men's hockey games are there? Zero. And what about Parents' Weekend? Is that the Union series, or is the men's team at RIT and Niagara then? There's something much more sinister going on here, and I hope to heck Coach Smith has some ways of improving the situation, because right now it looks like the 'tute doesn't give three hoots.
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