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    They didnt have the power to do that. He had the OS they had nothing but computers you couldnt really use. They assumed the software would be worthless that the hardware was where the money was. They let their arrogance get in the way and allowed Gates to keep DOS and license it to whomever he wanted. By the time they realized their mistake they had zero power over Windows. (watch the movie Pirates of Silicon Valley it is quite good)
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      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      They didnt have the power to do that. He had the OS they had nothing but computers you couldnt really use. They assumed the software would be worthless that the hardware was where the money was. They let their arrogance get in the way and allowed Gates to keep DOS and license it to whomever he wanted. By the time they realized their mistake they had zero power over Windows. (watch the movie Pirates of Silicon Valley it is quite good)
      I know they blew it. I'm saying they had a hundred chances to correct their errors.

      Apple and Jobs is a different story. Jobs was a genuinely interesting and valuable person and I doubt he'd have played their reindeer games. But a Jobs vs BIG COMPUTER fight might have gone better for us than a Microsoft vs Jobs fight.

      In any case, we got here, and this is a good place.
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        Jobs was a tool who rode the tails of better men than him and treated everyone like dirt. His flameout the first time around at Apple is legendary. His God complex ****ed near bankrupted the company. That he somehow convinced the world he is some genius who did nothing but great things for mankind ignores the fact that he was one of the most selfish *****s around who ****ed on his friends, verbal abused his subordinates and made all his high priced gadgetry on slave labor. Wozniak > Jobs.

        Gates may be an opportunist, but he was ten times the man Jobs was and was a much better leader of the company.
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        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          I know they blew it. I'm saying they had a hundred chances to correct their errors.

          Apple and Jobs is a different story. Jobs was a genuinely interesting and valuable person and I doubt he'd have played their reindeer games. But a Jobs vs BIG COMPUTER fight might have gone better for us than a Microsoft vs Jobs fight.

          In any case, we got here, and this is a good place.
          Jobs promoted consumer access to technology by streamlining and simplifying (some would say dumbing down), that's it. And by doing so, he got people to be willing to pay a premium for a brand name long after others caught up.

          I don't see how you can say he was more valuable than Gates.

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            Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
            Most of the time, IBM would have just bought out the nascent Microsoft and made it another division. However, at the time they were negotiating with Bill Gates, they were under anti-trust investigation, and were constrained from following their usual practice as a result.
            They also were maybe blindsided by the good deal they were getting. Microsoft wanted very little up front and didn't ask for any royalties, so IBM might have figured don't stop your adversary when they're making a mistake.

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              BTW Triumph of the Nerds is a very good documentary on all of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX5g0kidk3Y). The bookends are a little dated, but the rest of the story holds up. Plus you can see my father-in-law talking about his Altair for 30 seconds!

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              Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
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              Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
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              DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

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              • Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                Jobs was a tool who rode the tails of better men than him and treated everyone like dirt. His flameout the first time around at Apple is legendary. His God complex ****ed near bankrupted the company. That he somehow convinced the world he is some genius who did nothing but great things for mankind ignores the fact that he was one of the most selfish *****s around who ****ed on his friends, verbal abused his subordinates and made all his high priced gadgetry on slave labor.
                Today we call him "Elon Musk"

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                • Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                  Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                  ignores the fact that he was one of the most selfish *****s around who ****ed on his friends, verbal abused his subordinates and made all his high priced gadgetry on slave labor. Wozniak > Jobs.
                  I don't think it ignores that fact, I think it's beside the point. But I am certainly willing to rethink the CW on Jobs seeing as my point is Gates and Zuckerberg were really just glorified chucklehead businessmen who cashed in on others' genius.

                  I don't anyone at this point who doesn't think Jobs was an as-shole. But Edison was an as-sole. You can be a terrible human being and still be transformative.
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                    Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                    No discussion of the supposed Top Gun sequel?

                    Hollywood has officially hit the bottom of the proverbial barrel
                    It's never too early to start the Pre-game festivities

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                    • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                      Because it's a useful tool. And if you don't understand that, you can't even begin to claim you know computers.
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                        Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                        No discussion of the supposed Top Gun sequel?

                        30 years after killing Goose, Maverick feels the need. The need for...Ensure.

                        He's lost that loving feeling. Unless he takes Viagra.

                        /cuz he's old. And impotent. Get it?

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                          Originally posted by DisplacedCornellian View Post
                          30 years after killing Goose, Maverick feels the need. The need for...Ensure.

                          He's lost that loving feeling. Unless he takes Viagra.

                          /cuz he's old. And impotent. Get it?
                          "Take me to bed or lose me forever."

                          "What? I missed that last part. And who are you, anyway? Have you seen the remote?"
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                            Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                            Mookie knows women and can't understand them to save his life
                            In 54 years I have pieced this together:

                            1. If you go on the assumption that they're just like men you will be fine 90% of the time.

                            2. But the other 10% you will wish you'd never been born.

                            3. More variance within than between.
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                              Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
                              Hollywood has officially hit the bottom of the proverbial barrel
                              The Longest Yard called.
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                              • Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                I don't think it ignores that fact, I think it's beside the point. But I am certainly willing to rethink the CW on Jobs seeing as my point is Gates and Zuckerberg were really just glorified chucklehead businessmen who cashed in on others' genius.

                                I don't anyone at this point who doesn't think Jobs was an as-shole. But Edison was an as-sole. You can be a terrible human being and still be transformative.
                                Jobs did the same thing they did. It isnt like he was the one programming the stuff Wozniak and his people did most of the heavy lifting. Jobs was the pitchman who was getting high and disavowing his daughter while the people he loathed created the Macintosh.

                                You dont get to pretend Gates and Zuckerburg are nothing special and then in the same breathe make Jobs seem like he has some value. He doesnt. He is a snakeoil salesman just like the rest of them and like most people of his era went from being a drug addled revolutionary to be a greedy corporate ********.
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