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    Quote Originally Posted by wysi View Post
    This is why a good friend of mine (who played Major Junior in Canada) believes that the NHL should go back to drafting 21 year olds. It will never happen, of course.
    Would LOVE to see it. Then college would be more like "college" again. But I agree it will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wysi View Post
    This is why a good friend of mine (who played Major Junior in Canada) believes that the NHL should go back to drafting 21 year olds. It will never happen, of course.
    He is a wise man but no it won't happen but what needs to happen is everyone needs to stop acting like it means you are a definite NHL player or that you are automatically better player than other college players...It's not the NBA or NHL draft where guys are mature and headed straight to the league...I posted something months ago about the NFL Pro Bowl....something like 37 of the 44 pro bowlers were three star or below recruits coming out of high school...what that means is none of them would have been draft picks if the NFL drafted 18 year olds like the NHL..I assure you if the NHL repeated the 2016 draft when the players were 21 it would look quite different
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    Quote Originally Posted by christos1968 View Post
    You mean Lowell can't recruit the high end first round draft picks? No ****! So what do you want Quinn to do then? Let's turn down the high end talent to recruit a few 21 year olds who wern't talented enough to play 3 years earlier.? Sounds like a plan to me. Your not a Calipari fan either huh?
    You really aren't very bright are you...read the post below..not all of them are high end talent just because they are draft picks and BU probably could have had any player Lowell's roster....again if you do not understand that BU has a tremendous advantage over Lowell or don't think Lowell has some players more talented than the BU draft picks...then you can't fight stupid...and going to play juniors and producing at a high level does not mean you can't play over 18 year olds who are usually drafted on potential not on what they are now....there you go again comparing the NBA draft to the NHL....what you don't like Nick Saban?..hilarious
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    Frankly, I applaud the 18 year olds who go the college route... you know who else plays in the NHL? Larger, skilled, adults. Learn to play against them. There are many things that go into this but another factor may be just having too many "kids" in one room. Cultures are sculpted and can sometimes be fragile things. The team aspect matters a whole lot in the end so you're plugging in personalities together as much as anything else. I'm not calling out BU for issues current or past, think of it more as "good" and "better". Players a year or two older may have the maturity and lesson learning aspects down better or they know that its "now or never" so they ought to listen.

    I don't have the answer to this for you guys (no kidding, huh?)... it takes a lot to get talent to execute within a system. I don't even know if Norm could handle the personalities that comes with the talent... and that's not to knock on him but rather to say that different types can be worked in different ways.

    If it were me I'd listen to the culture to figure out what its saying... but I only say that for you super-diehards that are closer to the program. the only thing I can think is that the goal should be to build strong leaders and that the on ice play will follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman View Post
    Frankly, I applaud the 18 year olds who go the college route... you know who else plays in the NHL? Larger, skilled, adults. Learn to play against them. There are many things that go into this but another factor may be just having too many "kids" in one room. Cultures are sculpted and can sometimes be fragile things. The team aspect matters a whole lot in the end so you're plugging in personalities together as much as anything else. I'm not calling out BU for issues current or past, think of it more as "good" and "better". Players a year or two older may have the maturity and lesson learning aspects down better or they know that its "now or never" so they ought to listen.

    I don't have the answer to this for you guys (no kidding, huh?)... it takes a lot to get talent to execute within a system. I don't even know if Norm could handle the personalities that comes with the talent... and that's not to knock on him but rather to say that different types can be worked in different ways.

    If it were me I'd listen to the culture to figure out what its saying... but I only say that for you super-diehards that are closer to the program. the only thing I can think is that the goal should be to build strong leaders and that the on ice play will follow.
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    Congrats on the win on Friday. That was some crazy stuff you will all remember for a long time. (and UND fans too for all the wrong reasons).

    Call on the offsides was right down the middle 50/50 in my opinion, to the point where neither side had a right to complain had it not gone their way. Conclusive? IDK... kinda sorta. He appeared to be off. But I don't feel comfortable saying 100%. 95% though sure. But I do think they got it right.

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    Re: BU 2017 Season Thread III: Terriers falling (into the off season)

    So I guess we are rooting for Harvard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    So I guess we are rooting for Harvard?
    I'm rooting for Jim Montgomery and Denver. I have friends there and they are clearly the best team. I don't think anyone will come close to beating them, even Harvard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    I'm rooting for Jim Montgomery and Denver. I have friends there and they are clearly the best team. I don't think anyone will come close to beating them, even Harvard.
    now why again did umo pass on him when they dumped timmy??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    now why again did umo pass on him when they dumped timmy??
    big boo boo by AD i think. that one.. head scratcher.

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    ..of course.. we at NU know bit about head scratching AD decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    now why again did umo pass on him when they dumped timmy??
    Is that a "baiting" question?

    Here's the deal. Tim had been fired and Montgomery was looking for a job. Montgomery was waiting for a call from the AD and never got one. Montgomery was perplexed and openly said he could make Maine once again a national power. I'm just guessing here, but I think the AD was somewhat scared off by the past issue that Montgomery had. In addition, the AD was on his way out the door. Basically, Maine being a public institution they had to go through all of the academic and human resource protocols before hiring anyone. I suspect Denver being private could streamline this process a bit. Anyway, Denver jumped in and made the offer to Montgomery and he took it. Can't blame him. Way more money and much easier to recruit talent for Denver then it would be at Maine. Best situation for he and his family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northeastern View Post
    big boo boo by AD i think. that one.. head scratcher.
    Just a bit of a mistake.

    @runsub - I understand the circumstances surrounding the transition of powers at Maine, but no one there bothered to at least give him a phone call? And what issue was it that he had in the past?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brassbonanza View Post
    Just a bit of a mistake.

    @runsub - I understand the circumstances surrounding the transition of powers at Maine, but no one there bothered to at least give him a phone call? And what issue was it that he had in the past?
    Yes, Montgomery certainly deserved a phone call. He admitted making a poor decision before driving an automobile. We all make mistakes at some point in our lives. You learn from them and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runsub5 View Post
    Yes, Montgomery certainly deserved a phone call. He admitted making a poor decision before driving an automobile. We all make mistakes at some point in our lives. You learn from them and move on.
    ..you dont understand.. the peeps at BU.. they all clean. they dont make mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brassbonanza View Post
    Just a bit of a mistake.

    @runsub - I understand the circumstances surrounding the transition of powers at Maine, but no one there bothered to at least give him a phone call? And what issue was it that he had in the past?
    He wasn't considered because of HR issues. It had nothing to do with the timing of the transition. In Red's defense, Jimmy inherited much more at Denver than he would have at Maine. That's not to say Jimmy wouldn't have more successful than Red but Maine wouldn't be anywhere close to where Denver is right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runsub5 View Post
    Yes, Montgomery certainly deserved a phone call. He admitted making a poor decision before driving an automobile. We all make mistakes at some point in our lives. You learn from them and move on.
    Ah yeah, just found that buried in an article. Seven years prior at that time he gets one DWI, obviously a very big lapse in judgment, but I would think staying clean and having no record since would make his hiring more than justifiable. If that's the reason they didn't make the hire, that's letting a huge opportunity pass by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    He wasn't considered because of HR issues. It had nothing to do with the timing of the transition. In Red's defense, Jimmy inherited much more at Denver than he would have at Maine. That's not to say Jimmy wouldn't have more successful than Red but Maine wouldn't be anywhere close to where Denver is right now.
    Of course Jim inherited a program in MUCH better position at DU than he would have at Maine, but based on how he's recruited and how obviously well-coached his DU teams have been, there's no reason to believe he wouldn't have brought Maine back to being a Hockey East home ice contender and competing for an at-large NCAA bid by this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wysi View Post
    This is why a good friend of mine (who played Major Junior in Canada) believes that the NHL should go back to drafting 21 year olds. It will never happen, of course.
    So Austin Matthews and David Pasternak, to name just two, should still be a year or two from playing in the NHL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.J. Smith View Post
    So Austin Matthews and David Pasternak, to name just two, should still be a year or two from playing in the NHL?
    And McDavid, Laine, Eichel, Nylander, Marner, Aho and Provorov. All guys playing huge roles on their NHL teams. The system is fine the way it is.
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