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Originally posted by HockeyRef View PostI'd be amazed quite honestly..that Coach will retire early. People I've talked to that are close to him are adamant he will indeed fulfill his 3rd year. But, guess we'll find out.UNH Hockey: You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2017 Off-season: The Clash Question
Originally posted by Lemonade View PostEveryone of the recent recruits have been recruited by Souza with the intention of them playing for Souza as the head coach. Actually, I think you have a higher chance of losing recruits if umile comes back rather than losing them if he stays on.
In all seriousness, if Souza has been doing the recruiting, then he has made promises to these kids. He's been second banana for two years now. There has to have been conversations between he and Umile about speeding up the transition. Really, it does the program no good to have Dick hang around as the ultimate lame duck. If the team was riding some kind of sentimental wave that landed them in Boston this weekend I could see him holding on. But they were pretty brutal the last two months of the season. And while they made the valiant effort at Merrimack and the first game in Lowell, the last seven periods of the season were pretty brutal.
Just want to tease out something Watcher implied in the earlier thread. Is Glenn Stewart leaving? Assuming he takes the reins, is Souza seeking two assistants or one for next year?
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Originally posted by e.cat View PostPersonally, I have mixed emotions about this. Umile is from my era at UNH. Loved him as a player and as a Coach. Fierce competitor and if anyone bleeds blue it's him. But all good things come to an end. I do think it's time for him to pass the torch for the greater good of the program. I do think it's time for a fresh start. Umile can go out knowing he gave the program everything he had as a player and a Coach and if he's lucky the new team can bring home an NC in his lifetime.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2017 Off-season: The Clash Question
Originally posted by Mainehatlady View PostDo you really think he'd walk away with one year remaining on his contract, and only 14 wins (someone confirm) away from the 600 win milestone. I'd like to see him get there.
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Originally posted by Mainehatlady View PostDo you really think he'd walk away with one year remaining on his contract, and only 14 wins (someone confirm) away from the 600 win milestone. I'd like to see him get there.
- a man who has committed the majority of his adult life to the betterment of the UNH hockey program (and his college years as well) would suddenly become so selfish as to focus on his PERSONAL GAIN over the long-term success of his alma mater and employer
- that in some crude fashion, the athletic department was complicit in this, scheduling patsies for the 600-win plateau rather than recognizing the declining state of affairs and trying to ensure that the program was at least mildly competitive during this nadir. (An athletic department that is allegedly not necessarily in lockstep with the coach, by the way.)
I know it makes for good press, and I've enjoyed the Quest reflections! But to seriously believe that this is what has driven decision-making over the last couple of years goes beyond the pale and really disrespects the guy who has brought us more than our share of great moments over the last 20+ years, even if we didn't land the big one along the way.
I wish the 600 wins and a NC or two were treasures he could take with him into retirement. Assuming (and I am) that he's out, I'm pretty sure only one of those even registers on his radar.
Thanks, Coach, for all you've done/you did.Signature line intentionally left blank.
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Originally posted by wildcatdc View Postokay, I think it's time to give this 600-win milestone thing a rest. To believe that this has been an explicit goal of the program would essentially require that we believe that:
- a man who has committed the majority of his adult life to the betterment of the UNH hockey program (and his college years as well) would suddenly become so selfish as to focus on his PERSONAL GAIN over the long-term success of his alma mater and employer
- that in some crude fashion, the athletic department was complicit in this, scheduling patsies for the 600-win plateau rather than recognizing the declining state of affairs and trying to ensure that the program was at least mildly competitive during this nadir. (An athletic department that is allegedly not necessarily in lockstep with the coach, by the way.)
I know it makes for good press, and I've enjoyed the Quest reflections! But to seriously believe that this is what has driven decision-making over the last couple of years goes beyond the pale and really disrespects the guy who has brought us more than our share of great moments over the last 20+ years, even if we didn't land the big one along the way.
I wish the 600 wins and a NC or two were treasures he could take with him into retirement. Assuming (and I am) that he's out, I'm pretty sure only one of those even registers on his radar.
Thanks, Coach, for all you've done/you did.
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Originally posted by wildcatdc View Postokay, I think it's time to give this 600-win milestone thing a rest. To believe that this has been an explicit goal of the program would essentially require that we believe that:
- a man who has committed the majority of his adult life to the betterment of the UNH hockey program (and his college years as well) would suddenly become so selfish as to focus on his PERSONAL GAIN over the long-term success of his alma mater and employer
- that in some crude fashion, the athletic department was complicit in this, scheduling patsies for the 600-win plateau rather than recognizing the declining state of affairs and trying to ensure that the program was at least mildly competitive during this nadir. (An athletic department that is allegedly not necessarily in lockstep with the coach, by the way.)
I know it makes for good press, and I've enjoyed the Quest reflections! But to seriously believe that this is what has driven decision-making over the last couple of years goes beyond the pale and really disrespects the guy who has brought us more than our share of great moments over the last 20+ years, even if we didn't land the big one along the way.
I wish the 600 wins and a NC or two were treasures he could take with him into retirement. Assuming (and I am) that he's out, I'm pretty sure only one of those even registers on his radar.
Thanks, Coach, for all you've done/you did.Here we go 'Cats!!
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Originally posted by boblav1 View PostFYI - Two with Yale next season?
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Yale hockey non-league games next year: home vs UNH, UMass, ASU (2), vs Sacred Heart in Bridgeport; vs. Duluth and UNH at Dartmouth tourneyLast edited by deltabravo62; 03-14-2017, 02:28 AM.
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2017 Off-season: The Clash Question
Originally posted by Greg Ambrose View PostJust want to tease out something Watcher implied in the earlier thread. Is Glenn Stewart leaving? Assuming he takes the reins, is Souza seeking two assistants or one for next year?
1) they have no real prior relationship, and it would not be unusual for a new coach to want to hire two of his own guys
2) They have not given him a lot of responsibility. The recruiting the past two years * seems* to be Souza, not Stewart
3) the on-ice product does not really scream "gotta keep him"
4) it is not unusual for a guy passed over for a job to move on of his own volition, and with other coaching changes, he may get a better position/security.
pro keeping
1) Some continuity with existing players
2) Stewart has experience recruiting, and if they go with a younger assistant/Souza contemporary, Stewart could provide experience
3) Stewart was UNH's rep at last week's Beantown classic, so it appears they have not phased him out completely
4) loyalty for a UNH alum who took a risk leaving Merrimack.The Souza record:
15-16 10th place
16-17 10th place
17-18 11th place
18-19 8th place
19-20 9th place
20-21 10th place
21-22 9th place
22-23 10th place
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Originally posted by NCAA watcher View PostI have no knowledge, but here are the data points I am looking at:
1) they have no real prior relationship, and it would not be unusual for a new coach to want to hire two of his own guys
2) They have not given him a lot of responsibility. The recruiting the past two years * seems* to be Souza, not Stewart
3) the on-ice product does not really scream "gotta keep him"
4) it is not unusual for a guy passed over for a job to move on of his own volition, and with other coaching changes, he may get a better position/security.
pro keeping
1) Some continuity with existing players
2) Stewart has experience recruiting, and if they go with a younger assistant/Souza contemporary, Stewart could provide experience
3) Stewart was UNH's rep at last week's Beantown classic, so it appears they have not phased him out completely
4) loyalty for a UNH alum who took a risk leaving Merrimack.
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Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post"Should I stay or should I go?"Last edited by HockeyRef; 03-14-2017, 10:06 AM.Here we go 'Cats!!
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