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  • #781
    Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

    Originally posted by alfablue View Post
    It does depend on the situation surrounding that war. It could, very much, be held against him.

    BTW, on a veterans note- it's great to see so many ads on TV asking for people to donate to veterans associations. Since our government can't be bothered to support people who are willing to lay their lives on the line for the country.
    If it is against Mooslims it is a lock.

    And Kepler Booker is not Obama. (in many ways he is a better but not the ones that matter) They run him and the GOP will run on "Its another Obama" and all the haters that are abandoning Trump right now are back on his side. It is a terrible strategy. Plus, the guy just made headlines selling out about Prescription Drugs. Add in "Just Another East Coast Librul" and no...just no.

    The Dems need to wake up, if you want Middle America back you cant keep up this crap.

    This cant be just "well he is a decent candidate he should beat Trump" this needs to be "Who is our best" and have them front and center ready to go.
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
    -aparch

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    • #782
      Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      The Dems need to wake up, if you want Middle America back you cant keep up this crap.
      Who, then? Easy enough to criticize but put your names up.
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      • #783
        Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        But in 2016 he could run on promises and his Image. In 2020 he'll have done nothing and even some Republicans will have sussed out that he's a con man.

        The Dems just need a nominee who isn't Beltway Corruption Incarnate. Throw one of our lukewarm liberals up there -- Booker or Castro or Harris -- and we should be fine. Just stay away from the obvious landmines: anybody who reeks of the old order of Clinton, Pelosi, Reid. And get Obama out on the campaign trail to remind people what a president looks like and sounds like. Let Trump fall into the obvious trap of screaming at Barack while the nominee has open field.
        Regardless of a person's deeds or reputation on the Hill, anybody named Castro will not win the national election at this point. Had it been Ramirez, that would be entirely different.
        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

        "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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        • #784
          Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          Regardless of a person's deeds or reputation on the Hill, anybody named Castro will not win the national election at this point. Had it been Ramirez, that would be entirely different.
          We elected a Hussein, we can do anything.
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          • #785
            Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Who, then? Easy enough to criticize but put your names up.
            I gave Newsome and Frankin...both better than Booker and that is with little to no research.

            We have 2 years to find someone...we can do better than Booker.
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
            -aparch

            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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            • #786
              Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              I gave Newsome and Frankin...both better than Booker and that is with little to no research.

              We have 2 years to find someone...we can do better than Booker.
              I don't know anything about Newsome, gotta look him up.

              Franken would be the definitive test of whether somebody very smart can win. Typically intellect makes a lot of the herd very uncomfortable. But Franken does have charm, and incredible dignity.

              I would love it if he ran.

              No problem here with a Flyover Nominee. I'm not sure we're ever going to revive prairie liberalism, bit midwesterners aren't hated by any part of the country, the way pretty much everybody else (Northeasterns, southerners, Californians, Texans) is. What is the strong midwestern stereotype now? There's the Children of the Corn craziness but that wouldn't come into play with a Dem.
              Last edited by Kepler; 03-20-2017, 09:34 AM.
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              • #787
                Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I don't know anything about Newsome, gotta look him up.

                Franken would be the definitive test of whether somebody very smart can win. Typically that makes a lot of the herd very uncomfortable. But Franken does have charm, and incredible dignity.

                I would love it if he ran.
                I worry about him running. Middle America doesn't like smart liberals who know they're smart. Franken is great at it but I see a big hill to climb.
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                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                • #788
                  Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  I worry about him running. Middle America doesn't like smart liberals who know they're smart. Franken is great at it but I see a big hill to climb.
                  He won, though, so he has something that appeals to The Moral Fiber of America's Backbone.
                  Last edited by Kepler; 03-20-2017, 09:47 AM.
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                  • #789
                    Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

                    Based on what I saw blipped on my screen Comey is giving the President an out. It said they were investigating. It might not be wire tapping but the Prez and Spicey have spun that already.

                    Then again. Maybe not.

                    Comey: "I have no information to support [POTUS] tweets...the answer is the same for the Dept of Justice and all its components."
                    Last edited by ScoobyDoo; 03-20-2017, 10:10 AM.
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                    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
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                    • #790
                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      I gave Newsome and Frankin...both better than Booker and that is with little to no research.

                      We have 2 years to find someone...we can do better than Booker.
                      I love both Gavin and al, but worry they are too smart to appeal to the duurrrrrr crowd

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                      • #791
                        Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        Based on what I saw blipped on my screen Comey is giving the President an out. It said they were investigating. It might not be wire tapping but the Prez and Spicey have spun that already.

                        Then again. Maybe not.
                        I only saw a small bit of Comey, but he and the Brit (Rogers?) seemed to be very politely saying "the President pulled that stuff out of his gaping as-shole, just like he does with everything else."

                        Nice judo move by the ranking member (i.e. the senior Democrat) hijacking the panel and talking about the Russian attempts to hack the election. Comey took it in stride and essentially said, "yup."

                        Emperor Whineyb-tch aint gonna like that.
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                        • #792
                          Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          I worry about him running. Middle America doesn't like smart liberals who know they're smart. Franken is great at it but I see a big hill to climb.
                          Normally you would be right but Franken is a different animal. He is a known commodity because of his comedy and he is from the midwest and is very popular here. Plus he doesnt talk down to people like many smart liberals do.
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                          -aparch

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                          • #793
                            Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

                            Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                            I love both Gavin and al, but worry they are too smart to appeal to the duurrrrrr crowd
                            But, again, those are already lost votes. The worry about large brain pols for the Dems is a knock on effect: they don't inspire the middle brains because they don't tend* to use Gipper catch phrases and sound bites. But the actively anti-intellectual small brains are in the other caucus-- we're not getting them anyway.

                            * Though nothing says they can't. Churchill was definitely bright as pols goes, but he was able to put things in pithy ways with enough power to really inspire the masses.
                            Last edited by Kepler; 03-20-2017, 10:57 AM.
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                            • #794
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                              Not that I'd entertain a zero-collateral loan in the first place, but this is good news for those that do: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-18/student-loans

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                              • #795
                                Re: POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

                                Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                                I love both Gavin and al, but worry they are too smart to appeal to the duurrrrrr crowd
                                The durrr crowd isnt voting for a liberal. They are voting for a personality which is why they chose Trump. Frankin better at Showbiz Flair than Trump.
                                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                                -aparch

                                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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