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Originally posted by Scarlet View PostQuestion - if the East regional was somewhere else, like, oh, say, Worcester, where would Providence be going? Same regional? It seems like they get all the benefit of a host without spending a dime. Nice work if you can get it.Yes I am the former member known as Zlax45
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Originally posted by The Zlax45 View PostI actually had the Providence AD reply a few years ago about this and he said the NCAA would never send them outside of Providence when Brown is hosting...
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Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View PostIf riverchief1 is indicative of UML, then I have never met a more jealous fanbase than that of UML hockey. You guys have won nothing that matters (conference titles aside, and we have as many as you), have a history in this sport no more impressive than Notre Dame's, yet you act as if you have the hockey cred of BC, BU, North Dakota , Minnesota and Michigan combined. You are nothing, your school is meaningless and you are bragging about a team that plays a sport that is such a niche sport, reruns of poker vastly outdraw live college hockey. Riverchief1 sounds like a giant ********* and chooses to confirm this on a messageboard visited by dozens of people. Would anyone be surprised if he/she/it lives in a parent's basement and never had a date? If a BC fan wants to trash talk, I welcome it and they are entitled, even in a year they miss the actual tournament (no one cares anymore about conference tournament titles) and Notre Dame makes it. We may be "fake hockey east" but UMass Lowell is irrelevant, and I'd much rather be in the position where irrelevant fans of irrelevant teams make up ridiculous nicknames about my school. Such a shame when fans of a team are so thoroughly outclassed by the athletes and especially the head coach of that team. But hey, you enjoy your irrelevance while I enjoy the fact that my school is mentioned in the sports press somewhere every single day.
I don't see how your school's success in football 30+ years ago is relevant in the college hockey world.
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Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View PostIf riverchief1 is indicative of UML, then I have never met a more jealous fanbase than that of UML hockey. You guys have won nothing that matters (conference titles aside, and we have as many as you), have a history in this sport no more impressive than Notre Dame's, yet you act as if you have the hockey cred of BC, BU, North Dakota , Minnesota and Michigan combined. You are nothing, your school is meaningless and you are bragging about a team that plays a sport that is such a niche sport, reruns of poker vastly outdraw live college hockey. Riverchief1 sounds like a giant ********* and chooses to confirm this on a messageboard visited by dozens of people. Would anyone be surprised if he/she/it lives in a parent's basement and never had a date? If a BC fan wants to trash talk, I welcome it and they are entitled, even in a year they miss the actual tournament (no one cares anymore about conference tournament titles) and Notre Dame makes it. We may be "fake hockey east" but UMass Lowell is irrelevant, and I'd much rather be in the position where irrelevant fans of irrelevant teams make up ridiculous nicknames about my school. Such a shame when fans of a team are so thoroughly outclassed by the athletes and especially the head coach of that team. But hey, you enjoy your irrelevance while I enjoy the fact that my school is mentioned in the sports press somewhere every single day.
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Originally posted by Numbers View PostIf you move Denver to Cincy, then MTU has to go with them. That means you assume MTU brings as many fans to Cincy as OSU does, and I don't think that's going to happen. So, you decrease the Cincy attendance, and at the same time make Denver travel further. Two strikes.
The only thing in favor of that is that UMD can bus to Fargo, so you save a flight, which is probably a net $$ savings. If the committee does that, we will know they are tight with $$Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits, Co-Founder of Tech Hockey Guide, and Creator/Host of the Chasing MacNaughton Podcast covering MTU Hockey and the WCHA.
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Originally posted by Numbers View PostIf you move Denver to Cincy, then MTU has to go with them. That means you assume MTU brings as many fans to Cincy as OSU does, and I don't think that's going to happen. So, you decrease the Cincy attendance, and at the same time make Denver travel further. Two strikes.
The only thing in favor of that is that UMD can bus to Fargo, so you save a flight, which is probably a net $$ savings. If the committee does that, we will know they are tight with $$
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Is it really such a huge deal for PC to play in Providence? It really seems overblown to me. They're not playing in Scneider. They're playing in a much larger arena, that barely drew the last time it hosted. Honestly, how many PC fans will attend this weekend that wouldn't have made the 45 minute drive if Worcester was the host? How many Harvard fans would go to Worcester but NOT an hour down the road to Providence? Honestly, if Harvard doesn't get enough fans down there to make it neutral than that's on them...
It was a bigger problem when Miami had to play Providence - but that's what happens when you don't earn the right to stay in region. And as a Miami alum - I can promise you they would have felt equally as screwed playing PC anywhere in NE. I can also promise you Miami is unlikely to bring a large amount of fans anywhere - including Cincinnati...
I am shocked by how many thought it was necessary to protect Harvard but were adamant Denver should be sent to ND. Fargo will be a MUCH more extreme home ice advantage hours away from NDs campus...Last edited by Dan; 03-20-2017, 10:49 AM.Live Free or Die!!
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Originally posted by Dan View PostIs it really such a huge deal for PC to play in Providence?Last edited by Crimson on the Glass; 03-20-2017, 10:59 AM.
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Originally posted by J.D. View PostThis time around providence being in providence does matchup with the PWR though
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Originally posted by J.D. View PostThis time around providence being in providence does matchup with the PWR though
In 2014-15 Miami could have played Quinipiac or Yale in Providence instead. What would have been the difference? Two good teams and fan bases from less than an hour away. Same atmosphere a few extra NCAA bucks. No harm, no foul. Providence being at home had nothing to do with the outcome. RedHawk fans who didn't go to Providence, certainly wouldn't have gone to Manchester. Miami lost because Barber was hurt, Coleman was suspended, the entire team took the first two periods off and PC was better.
The box score lists attendance as 7900 - so it was probably more like 5,000. Let's say 2500-3000 PC fans, in a cavernous arena. If that's insurmountable or even an advantage in an opponents eyes, they deserve to lose...
Miami was the fourth one seed - this happens when your the fourth one seed. Playing ND in Fargo is a bad draw. Playing UNH in Manchester (when they were good) is a bad draw. Playing PC in Providence is no different than playing them in Worcester or Albany or Manchester. Playing Jon Gilles is a bad draw - and that's just tournament hockey...
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There is a narrative emerging that SC beat Duke because the game was in SC. And it's silly. Greenville is an hot closer than Greensboro for SC and an hour and a half further for Duke. Duke just lost...Last edited by Dan; 03-20-2017, 11:27 AM.Live Free or Die!!
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Once again, I don't care where Harvard ended up this time, or any other time as long as it is fair. If the Crimson are going to win, they can do that anywhere. What is bothersome is the position allegedly held by the NCAA itself and reportedly stated by Providence officials about its special treatment as a non-host school. That's all. I don't know how they came to this (regardless of PWR rank) status level that the other 15 teams do not seem to enjoy.
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Originally posted by Crimson on the Glass View PostIf you are saying that #3 Harvard is assigned to the same Regional as is #14 Harvard, then yes I agree. But which of them determined that they would go there? Had 3 New England teams made the top 4 PWR and a 1st tier Harvard been sent to say Cincinnati, would the 4th tier Providence have been sent there with them? Because it sounds like they would not have been.
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